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Telnames own claims

Post by Tim Spears on Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:31 am

Displayed on the Telnames homepage:
a) By 2013 more people will use mobile phones than PCs to get online
b) Google estimates that around 50% of mobile searches are for local services
c) Research indicates that 6 in 10 visitors will leave a mobile-unfriendly site
d) Consumers on the go use mobile search mostly for finding out the essential information, quickly contacting the business or locating business on the map
e) Having a mobile optimised website is now imperative for your business

How Telnames help customers in this situation?
a) Display of a compact and easy to use website.
b) How a Telname can be found? Difficult on Google, Telpages unknown and no existence of other searches. This is the current weakness!
c) Visitors will stay very short on a Telname, because it has only contact entries and a short business overview. This can be very good, because it's timesaving.
d) Visitors will get encouraged to call the business.
e) Telnames can be the digital business card.
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Re: Telnames own claims

Post by Expert on Sun 24 Feb 2013, 3:01 am

Tim Spears wrote:b) How a Telname can be found? Difficult on Google, Telpages unknown and no existence of other searches. This is the current weakness!
As mentioned already 1000 times Telnames needs to develop and promote Telpages or needs to cooperate with a big and known directory.
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Re: Telnames own claims

Post by Sunrise on Sun 24 Feb 2013, 3:42 am

Tim Spears wrote:How a Telname can be found? Difficult on Google, Telpages unknown and no existence of other searches. This is the current weakness!
This is more than only a weakness. It's almost the only criteria to register a website or not.
If Telnic don't find a way to solve this problem, they will never see the breakthrough for Telnames.
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Re: Telnames own claims

Post by TelBlogger on Sun 24 Feb 2013, 4:12 am

The Telnames will be found through offline advertising, I guess if they are found at all. On stationery, sides of vehicles, business cards, promotional material etc.

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Re: Telnames own claims

Post by Hotty on Sun 24 Feb 2013, 5:20 am

I don't see a problem at all. Many search options will arrive after Telnic sold enough domains.
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Re: Telnames own claims

Post by GoTel on Sun 24 Feb 2013, 6:09 am

Sunrise wrote:This is more than only a weakness. It's almost the only criteria to register a website or not.
If Telnic don't find a way to solve this problem, they will never see the breakthrough for Telnames.

Exactly right. If they are waiting for enough registrations it will never happen. You don't build a stadium for the Olympics after you sell enough tickets, you build the stadium and promote ticket sales !

No directory, few sales.
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Re: Telnames own claims

Post by NewYorkCity on Sun 24 Feb 2013, 7:32 am

Isn’t it funny?


Telnic didn’t sell enough domains and invented Telnames to make it better.


And once again they make exactly the same major mistake.


So much about the ability to learn!

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Re: Telnames own claims

Post by fustachio.tel on Sun 24 Feb 2013, 8:43 am

.tel is marketed to small business and like stated abovee small business is local, so they all ready like stated above advert in their local papers, on their vans/cars and via signs placed outside where they're doing building work etc.

Small business does not need to be no1 for a keyword in fact trying to claim they need to be no1 or pushing this "not good in google" is confusing people and is false in my opnion, why? well because its small business, being no1 in google for just "plumber" only produces calls and website views by people who are not local, the TLDs that are country extentions like .fr for france and .de for germany help search engines bracket you when found in a search so that you don't get web hits and in the case of .tel if google looked at the map and the website languge to bracket you so you don't get phone calls from people in france or around the world looking for plumbing advice or someone to fix their plumbing in a hurry.

You can see that telnames customers understand very well about advertising & search and so complaing they don't understand is just false and missleading and insulting to them, how so? because they bracket themselfs when they sign up by buying domainnames as a strings of keywords not single words aka plumbingbolton jackandkillplumbingsomewhere and that's all they need but it should be the other way round.

If it does not all ready work this way Tel should be making sure Google uses the map to bracket businesses to a locatation so they don't need to use ugly long urls and make sure the text headers and such as the plumbing bolton keywords work for them.

And contary to what people profess there are NO experts with regards to Google search placing other than google employees themselfs, there are too many factors to consider and too many secret ranking systems in place to be a professional at it, how ever google should by now know what a .tel is and that they contain some of the most accurate uptodate infomation online relating to a business location and address and contact number etc and if not then tel needs to work on making sure google are aware of tel.

As for a directory I have to say while I aggree I don't believe tel have to do anything other than contact Google again to push for an automated DNS data push into Googles own directory of businesses.

If you are not aware Google has it own and collects info from many sources about your business and you can claim a listing, it would be better if when you buy a .tel once you submit with the app the data gets put into the DNS and the app automaticlly claims your business page in the Google directory by some api they must have to let them know to go absorb up the info from the DNS into the page, the GREAT thing with telnames is once you submit you images of your business and product they should be avaible in Google directory for business as they're all ready the right size and listed under your business name, tagging could be better on them but it's a very neat system.

Anyway So that by being in that and having it linked to your telname address, you don't need to worry as all traffic from that goes into your tel which goes back to you via a phone calls etc, and should be updated by google reading the DNS when you change map location, business images etc. Which should help your ranking the most and do what I said use the MAP location to bracket your business in normal google search, either way tel needs to make sure it's being used by google correctly and if not get on the phone/fax/ or fly out to the USA and have a meeting about getting this info auto setup in googles directory of businesses via an API for telnames set as "business" not indevidual when bought.

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Re: Telnames own claims

Post by maxi on Sun 24 Feb 2013, 8:56 am

As I understand from comments, no one of those forum users who wrote their opinion here, owns a small business. So, it would be also interesting to hear from people who owns their real small businesses, what they think?
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Re: Telnames own claims

Post by Toptel on Sun 24 Feb 2013, 9:37 am

GoTel wrote:No directory, few sales.
Maybe they think somebody else will create a good search for them like they think registrars will create good templates for them.
It’s the same known way of minimal effort and hoping for a miracle.
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Re: Telnames own claims

Post by Moonlight on Sun 24 Feb 2013, 9:44 am

Toptel wrote:
GoTel wrote:No directory, few sales.
Maybe they think somebody else will create a good search for them like they think registrars will create good templates for them.
It’s the same known way of minimal effort and hoping for a miracle.
What’s wrong with it? It’s very reasonable to check out first if the new efforts with Telnames will reach the target.
A search directory can be always delivered later. And Telpages exists already; it only needs to be spiced up.
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Re: Telnames own claims

Post by Toptel on Sun 24 Feb 2013, 10:00 am

Moonlight wrote:What’s wrong with it?
No serious website owner will be satisfied with a website if it won't be visited by customers, doesn't matter if small business or not.
It's better to invest the registration fees for Telnames into advertisement for Yellow Pages where the business can be found for sure.
There is no other way for Telnic than providing the same exposure if they want to sell their tels.
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Post by Moonlight on Sun 24 Feb 2013, 10:17 am

fustachio.tel wrote:.tel is marketed to small business and like stated abovee small business is local, so they all ready like stated above advert in their local papers, on their vans/cars and via signs placed outside where they're doing building work etc.

Small business does not need to be no1 for a keyword in fact trying to claim they need to be no1 or pushing this "not good in google" is confusing people and is false in my opnion, why? well because its small business, being no1 in google for just "plumber" only produces calls and website views by people who are not local, the TLDs that are country extentions like .fr for france and .de for germany help search engines bracket you when found in a search so that you don't get web hits and in the case of .tel if google looked at the map and the website languge to bracket you so you don't get phone calls from people in france or around the world looking for plumbing advice or someone to fix their plumbing in a hurry.

You can see that telnames customers understand very well about advertising & search and so complaing they don't understand is just false and missleading and insulting to them, how so? because they bracket themselfs when they sign up by buying domainnames as a strings of keywords not single words aka plumbingbolton jackandkillplumbingsomewhere and that's all they need but it should be the other way round.

If it does not all ready work this way Tel should be making sure Google uses the map to bracket businesses to a locatation so they don't need to use ugly long urls and make sure the text headers and such as the plumbing bolton keywords work for them.

And contary to what people profess there are NO experts with regards to Google search placing other than google employees themselfs, there are too many factors to consider and too many secret ranking systems in place to be a professional at it, how ever google should by now know what a .tel is and that they contain some of the most accurate uptodate infomation online relating to a business location and address and contact number etc and if not then tel needs to work on making sure google are aware of tel.

As for a directory I have to say while I aggree I don't believe tel have to do anything other than contact Google again to push for an automated DNS data push into Googles own directory of businesses.

If you are not aware Google has it own and collects info from many sources about your business and you can claim a listing, it would be better if when you buy a .tel once you submit with the app the data gets put into the DNS and the app automaticlly claims your business page in the Google directory by some api they must have to let them know to go absorb up the info from the DNS into the page, the GREAT thing with telnames is once you submit you images of your business and product they should be avaible in Google directory for business as they're all ready the right size and listed under your business name, tagging could be better on them but it's a very neat system.

Anyway So that by being in that and having it linked to your telname address, you don't need to worry as all traffic from that goes into your tel which goes back to you via a phone calls etc, and should be updated by google reading the DNS when you change map location, business images etc. Which should help your ranking the most and do what I said use the MAP location to bracket your business in normal google search, either way tel needs to make sure it's being used by google correctly and if not get on the phone/fax/ or fly out to the USA and have a meeting about getting this info auto setup in googles directory of businesses via an API for telnames set as "business" not indevidual when bought.
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Re: Telnames own claims

Post by GoTel on Sun 24 Feb 2013, 10:26 am

Toptel wrote:
No serious website owner will be satisfied with a website if it won't be visited by customers, doesn't matter if small business or not.
It's better to invest the registration fees for Telnames into advertisement for Yellow Pages where the business can be found for sure.
There is no other way for Telnic than providing the same exposure if they want to sell their tels.

At least someone that actually uses a local directory would know about Telnames that way ! Good thought.


Last edited by GoTel on Sun 24 Feb 2013, 10:36 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : misread)
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Re: Telnames own claims

Post by Expert on Sun 24 Feb 2013, 10:57 am

Moonlight wrote:being no1 in google for just "plumber" only produces calls and website views by people who are not local
If a Telname can manage to be one the first page of Google for the search "plumber bolton", the requirement would be realized.
An important search term for small businesses would be always the name of the service and the town or location.
It's true that a Telname doesn't need to be on the first page for the search "plumber" only, because it is not precise enough.

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