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Post by silvano on Mon 09 Sep 2013, 4:40 am

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Re: All .tel information at-a-glance

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Re: All .tel information at-a-glance

Post by 500 on Fri 13 Dec 2013, 8:18 pm

Before this forum will close unexpectedly again: 500.name
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Re: All .tel information at-a-glance

Post by mikeseaton on Sat 14 Dec 2013, 11:54 am

500 wrote:Before this forum will close unexpectedly again: 500.name

Hopefully that won't happen for a 3rd time !

Welcome to the forum @500 and good luck with your efforts at http://500.name - the TEL REGISTRY AGREEMENT EXPIRY COUNTDOWN is an innovative idea.

As forum members will know I still believe in the .tel concept - usage of the "Data in the DNS" by 3rd parties to provide automated software services is the reason for .tel's existence - but IMO the implementation by Telnic has been appalling (alienating what could have been a massive "ecosystem") even though they had $35,000,000 of shareholders money to do the job properly !

I don't believe anything will change significantly for the .tel project until THE MONEY RUNS OUT AT TELNIC - once the 2013 set of accounts are published it should be fairly easy to calculate an approximate date for this.

Of course the investors who have already stumped up $35,000,000 could pump a few more millions in - but somehow I doubt it - I anticipate a takeover by one of the many companies currently investing in gTLDs.

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Post by 4444 on Sat 14 Dec 2013, 1:04 pm

mikeseaton wrote:Of course the investors who have already stumped up $35,000,000 could pump a few more millions in

If they do, they prevent the chance of winning a proactive .tel operator as successor.
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Re: All .tel information at-a-glance

Post by Watcher on Mon 16 Dec 2013, 8:54 am

Every day more forums about .tel open than .tel domains get registered: www.TelCommunity.org
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Post by mikeseaton on Mon 16 Dec 2013, 10:17 am

Watcher wrote:Every day more forums about .tel open than .tel domains get registered: www.TelCommunity.org

If you're talking about "net" registrations (ie. new regs less drops) that statement is true most days now !

Checking http://www.dottel.net I notice Telnames total regs (the TN figure) have been dropping as well recently - down from 11,4nn a few days ago to 11,235 today.

Total .tel registrations of all types have seen a massive drop from the peak figure of 333,891 on 1 March 2011 (see http://www.hosterstats.com/DomainNameCounts2011.php) to 211,482 today.

And yet still Telnic/Telnames don't recognise they have a major problem and refuse to implement the most obvious actions needed (as suggested in http://www.teltalk.org/t1497-the-reality-of-tel#9129) NOW !

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Post by 4444 on Mon 16 Dec 2013, 1:39 pm

mikeseaton wrote:And yet still Telnic/Telnames don't recognise they have a major problem and refuse to implement the most obvious actions needed (as suggested in http://www.teltalk.org/t1497-the-reality-of-tel#9129) NOW !

Nobody knows what goes on at Telnic, so we can only guess. I guess Telnic still believes in a breakthrough with Telnames. I'm afraid that the imminent halving of registration numbers both at Telnic and Telnames still won't open their eyes.
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Post by 4444 on Tue 17 Dec 2013, 1:40 pm


It's getting clearer and clearer that Telnic wants registration numbers to shrink.
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Post by 4444 on Tue 17 Dec 2013, 1:52 pm

PS: It's easier to shut down this TLD with as few registrations left as possible.
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Post by mikeseaton on Thu 19 Dec 2013, 2:51 pm

mikeseaton wrote:
Watcher wrote:Every day more forums about .tel open than .tel domains get registered: www.TelCommunity.org

If you're talking about "net" registrations (ie. new regs less drops) that statement is true most days now !

Checking http://www.dottel.net I notice Telnames total regs (the TN figure) have been dropping as well recently - down from 11,4nn a few days ago to 11,235 today.

Total .tel registrations of all types have seen a massive drop from the peak figure of 333,891 on 1 March 2011 (see http://www.hosterstats.com/DomainNameCounts2011.php) to 211,482 today.

And yet still Telnic/Telnames don't recognise they have a major problem and refuse to implement the most obvious actions needed (as suggested in http://www.teltalk.org/t1497-the-reality-of-tel#9129) NOW !

http://www.dottel.net today shows 211,279 Total .Tel Regs with 11,079 Telnames.

I've not used detailed statistical analysis for many years but you don't need this knowledge to realise the obvious - Total .Tel Regs are heading down towards 210K and Telnames Regs are stuck around 11K !

So what's Plan B Telnic/Telnames, given that Plan A isn't working - I assume there is a Plan B ?

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Post by 4444 on Fri 20 Dec 2013, 4:11 am

mikeseaton wrote:Total .Tel Regs are heading down towards 210K and Telnames Regs are stuck around 11K !

One year ago with the Telnames TV commercial the last marketing activity was on air. Since most customers are dropping their .tels after the first year, I expect the numbers for Telnames will drop faster from now on.
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Post by 4444 on Fri 20 Dec 2013, 4:13 am

mikeseaton wrote:I assume there is a Plan B ?

It was possible to watch the activity since 2009. I'm convinced: No, there is no Plan B !

The only reaction from Telnic to low sales numbers has been always to reduce every activity even more.
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Post by 500 on Sun 22 Dec 2013, 10:19 pm

mikeseaton wrote:Welcome to the forum @500 and good luck with your efforts at http://500.name - the TEL REGISTRY AGREEMENT EXPIRY COUNTDOWN is an innovative idea.

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Post by mikeseaton on Mon 23 Dec 2013, 8:44 am

@500 - So 30 May 2016 is the date the Telnic registry agreement for .tel expires with ICANN and has to be renegotiated.

Actually I think the last of Telnic's $35,000,000 shareholder investment may well have run out before then !

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Post by Toptel on Mon 23 Dec 2013, 12:28 pm

Suspense! What will happen?
Telnic has shown that no activity is wanted to increase registration numbers.
If the shareholders won't pump fresh money into Telnic, then ICANN has to search for a new operator of this TLD latest in 2016.
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Post by 4444 on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 4:31 am

Difficult situation: Because Telnic has decided to do nothing for years, nobody can be sure that .tel will still exist in a few years.
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Post by Toptel on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 5:01 am

If .tel will be shut down, what will happen to the domains of those registrants who have paid their renewal fees 10 years in advance?
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Post by mikeseaton on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 12:50 pm

There is of course one person, a Director of both Telnic Ltd and Telnames Ltd (see  http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/telnic and http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/telnames) who should be able to bale out Telnic/Telnames financially - Henri Asseily

Alex wrote:Henri Asseily is a serial entrepreneur, whose current position is Chief Strategist of Telnic Ltd, the registry for the new .tel top-level domains. In 1996 he co-founded BizRate.com, one of the world’s largest and best-known consumer feedback platforms, surveying tens of millions of buyers each year and providing store ratings and customer feedback to help hundreds of millions of online shoppers buy more confidently. In 1999, he expanded the platform to online comparison shopping and created Shopzilla which today is one of the largest shopping sites in the world, facilitating billions of dollars in gross merchandise sales and consistently ranked in the top 50 overall sites worldwide.  In 2005, Shopzilla was acquired by E.W. Scripps for $569 million dollars. A 17-year veteran of the Internet, Mr Asseily invests and mentors companies in sectors as broad as online media, digital intelligence gathering and green industries. Mr Asseily holds an MBA in Entrepreneurship from the Wharton School, and a double Bachelor in Mathematics andEconomics from the University of Pennsylvania.

Henri sold Shopzilla for $569,000,000 back in 2005 - not sure what percentage he owned then - but I would imagine he still has a few million dollars left from this !

Will he decide to plough more money into Telnic/Telnames when the last of the $35,000,000 shareholder investment runs out ?

Would you ?

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Post by Tix on Wed 25 Dec 2013, 4:56 am

Mike, That's great news.
It would be very easy to improve .tel. We only have to wait for the day when Telnic is sold.

And I understand one thing now:
There is no reason to rush, because something is happening behind the scenes that we don't know about.

BTW why should Henri hurry (with $569 million dollars in the back)?
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Post by ixida on Wed 25 Dec 2013, 1:30 pm

Do I understand it right? We just have to wait for Henri to become the CEO and .tel will finally be developed?
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Post by mikeseaton on Wed 25 Dec 2013, 2:20 pm

ixida wrote:Do I understand it right? We just have to wait for Henri to become the CEO and .tel will finally be developed?

@ixida - I never said Henri Asseily WOULD bankroll Telnic when they finally run out of money - only that it looks as if he COULD if he chose to do so !

You could always phone him to clarify the situation - his contact numbers are on http://henri.tel - note that his mobile and office numbers are currently prefixed +961 which is the country code for Lebanon.

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Post by Toptel on Thu 26 Dec 2013, 2:39 am

Telnic has many directors traveling the world while nobody cares about .tel!

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