WWW . TEL . COMMUNITY - The .tel domain forum

Welcome to the Tel.community.

You are invited to participate in the growing .tel
community!

To take full advantage of everything offered by
our forum, please log in if you are already a
member or join our community if you're not yet.

The registration at TelTalk.org is free and easy!

Thank you for participation!
WWW . TEL . COMMUNITY - The .tel domain forum

Welcome to the objective forum for .tel domains! Read it first when anything is happening with .tel!

Please join the LIVE CHAT for all REGISTERED members at the bottom of our forum!

What's the best .tel strategy?

Share

Poll

What to do with .tel?

[ 0 ]
0% [0%] 
[ 0 ]
0% [0%] 
[ 0 ]
0% [0%] 
[ 0 ]
0% [0%] 
[ 0 ]
0% [0%] 
[ 1 ]
25% [25%] 
[ 0 ]
0% [0%] 
[ 1 ]
25% [25%] 
[ 1 ]
25% [25%] 
[ 1 ]
25% [25%] 

Total Votes: 4
avatar
Sunrise
Insider
Insider

Join date : 2012-08-10
Posts : 735 Points : 19543
Reputation : 540
Warning level : 100 %

What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by Sunrise on Fri 20 Sep 2013, 9:43 pm

It's hard to stay objective since Telnic customers have been kicked out.
avatar
Natal
Advanced Member
Advanced Member

Join date : 2012-08-07
Posts : 63 Points : 3321
Reputation : 26
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by Natal on Sat 21 Sep 2013, 8:20 am

I will explain it especially for you once. Telnic expected to sell millions of domains in 2009. After this didn’t happen, Telnic reacted and reduced the workforce to operate on low-level. This is the only and very obvious explanation for everything what has happened during the last three years. All complaining and sarcasm won’t bring any change, because nothing can bring in the missing millions of customers. If you want the situation to improve, the best option for you is to keep quiet.

maxi
Insider
Insider

Join date : 2012-08-27
Posts : 993 Points : 22101
Reputation : 466
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by maxi on Sat 21 Sep 2013, 2:51 pm

Natal wrote:Telnic expected to sell millions of domains in 2009. After this didn’t happen, Telnic reacted and reduced the workforce to operate on low-level.
May I ask, what benefits Telnic's men expect to win with this strategy for Telnic Ltd.?

Surely they should have some expectations. So, what exactly they expect will happen in the period of this "reduced workforce" and "operation on low-level", which should bring a success for the company?
avatar
Natal
Advanced Member
Advanced Member

Join date : 2012-08-07
Posts : 63 Points : 3321
Reputation : 26
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by Natal on Sat 21 Sep 2013, 8:58 pm

Domain investors have more in common with Telnic than it appears at first sight. Seriously, domain business is tough. This forum is full with suggestions to adjust the business strategy and with complaints why Telnic doesn’t follow all these advices. But can the domain investors provide any proof that these suggestions lead to only one single new registered domain? The right advice is to observe the market and not to fire all powder at once. It’s very, very hard to convince phone companies to include a new invention into their services. The main task of Telnic is to assure a stable environment and check the market regularly for the moment when global acting companies start being interested in using the DNS. Like it or not, Telnic’s hands are tied until that time.
avatar
Sunrise
Insider
Insider

Join date : 2012-08-10
Posts : 735 Points : 19543
Reputation : 540
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by Sunrise on Sat 21 Sep 2013, 11:42 pm

Natal wrote:But can the domain investors provide any proof that these suggestions lead to only one single new registered domain?
BS! Telnic only have to program an appropriate template; and people will start buying a .tel.
Instead Telnic killed all SEO options with Telnames and tries to get rid of all other customers who see the deficits of the current offers.

maxi
Insider
Insider

Join date : 2012-08-27
Posts : 993 Points : 22101
Reputation : 466
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by maxi on Sun 22 Sep 2013, 7:47 am

Natal wrote: This forum is full with suggestions to adjust the business strategy and with complaints why Telnic doesn’t follow all these advices.
I think we need to divide forumers' suggestions about Telnic's strategy and customers' suggestions about improving design and functionallyti of Telnic's product.

Company's strategy is its own business, and in fact is not very interesting for the customers - until they get what they need.

But what prevents Telnic's team from following customers' suggestion to create nice design for its multifoder-TELs and to make it possible to upload images and ads directly from the panel? I personally need only these two things and can wait long years for realization of Telnic's plans to reach its agreement with phone companies. I think that many other forum members and TEL-customers wait for the same two things only.


Natal wrote: But can the domain investors provide any proof that these suggestions lead to only one single new registered domain?
If a new template for multi-folder TELs, which will have possibility to insert images and ads directly from the panel will apear, then I will certainly register (and populate it with info) one domain at least. So, it could be a proof.
avatar
MWX
Senior Member
Senior Member

Join date : 2013-07-17
Posts : 205 Points : 5921
Reputation : 75
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by MWX on Sun 22 Sep 2013, 8:47 am

maxi wrote:I think we need to divide forumers' suggestions about Telnic's strategy and customers' suggestions about improving design and functionallyti of Telnic's product.

Company's strategy is its own business, and in fact is not very interesting for the customers - until they get what they need.

But what prevents Telnic's team from following customers' suggestion to create nice design for its multifoder-TELs and to make it possible to upload images and ads directly from the panel? I personally need only these two things and can wait long years for realization of Telnic's plans to reach its agreement with phone companies. I think that many other forum members and TEL-customers wait for the same two things only.
Strategy and product design are connected closely to each other: Telnic decided to deliver a nice design only to Telnames without folders and cut the Telnic development for years. Because of this poor judgment nobody can be surprised about the stagnation of .tel!
avatar
mikeseaton
High-Flyer
High-Flyer

Location : Dorset UK
Join date : 2012-06-11
Posts : 2207 Points : 44819
Reputation : 836
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by mikeseaton on Sun 22 Sep 2013, 10:19 am

It’s been a long and winding road for many new top level domain applicants. But most of the delays and challenges new TLD applicants have faced pale in comparison to the very long, very expensive road that .tel registry Telnic has traveled.
Check out the full article by a respected independent observer at http://domainnamewire.com/2013/05/02/a-look-at-tels-14-year-25-million-journey/

Don't forget to read the comments at the end of the article - here's one:
It was an interesting idea at the onset in 2009 when a lot of people still didn’t have smartphones and the directory listing format made sense on a small screen phone. I own several one word .tel domains and like many just wait for the day when the registry opens it up where the domains can be hosted anywhere and users can publish their own content etc. just like any normal domain extension. They would likely gain many fold new .tel registrations and it has the potential to be a more attractive extension than .mobi, and with so many products such as gift cards, coupons, games etc. all being formatted for phone use and scanning in stores by the checkout person it could really turn the corner for .tel.
http://MikeSeaton.tel


___________________________________________________
Domain Sales: Sedo
eBay Sites: Mike 321 UK
Search Engines: Web | Video | Facebook | Google+ | Pinterest | Tel | Twitter
avatar
TELwax
Advanced Member
Advanced Member

Join date : 2013-06-01
Posts : 92 Points : 3412
Reputation : 31
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by TELwax on Sun 22 Sep 2013, 6:11 pm

@maxi  From your post #6 :
 .../...following customers' suggestion to create nice design for its multifoder-TELs and to make it possible to upload images and ads directly from the panel ?
I personally need only these two things and can wait long years for realization of Telnic's plans to reach its agreement with phone companies. I think that many other forum members and TEL-customers wait for the same two things only.
For images :
If you do not want to wait you can go directly at www.telmasters.com , register FREE your dot TEL domain onto Telmasters.com ( add your domain) ,  do not forget to enable OAuth provided by TELnic so that you grant autorisation to Tools from TELmasters to access to your domain to input data as per your request, and just start using the Tools with several of them being FREE.

Typically by using >QuickUPdate> you will be able to input and manage images for desktop or mobile display, as well as Text ads.
Of course no way to implement large background image as in Telnames, but as you may know this background image from telnames is not rendered on most mobile, so ....

For templates :
Concerning templates, there are already a few of them although one can always want other design or fully customized templates, but then mobile rendering will be far from ...frequently rendered  ...

maxi
Insider
Insider

Join date : 2012-08-27
Posts : 993 Points : 22101
Reputation : 466
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by maxi on Mon 23 Sep 2013, 4:28 am

TELwax wrote:@maxi  From your post #6 :
If you do not want to wait you can go directly at www.telmasters.com
Telwax, thanks!


maxi wrote:
Natal wrote: This forum is full with suggestions to adjust the business strategy and with complaints why Telnic doesn’t follow all these advices.
I think we need to divide forumers' suggestions about Telnic's strategy and customers' suggestions about improving design and functionallyti of Telnic's product.

Company's strategy is its own business, and in fact is not very interesting for the customers - until they get what they need.

But what prevents Telnic's team from following customers' suggestion to create nice design for its multifoder-TELs and to make it possible to upload images and ads directly from the panel? I personally need only these two things and can wait long years for realization of Telnic's plans to reach its agreement with phone companies. I think that many other forum members and TEL-customers wait for the same two things only.
So, I personally do not see any other logical explanation to this unwillingness to improve product, except of the variant that they purposely  do not want to improve it.

And in this way we again return to the previously discussed topic: http://www.teltalk.org/t1099-the-reason-why-telnic-does-nothing-against-falling-registration-numbers?highlight=registration
avatar
GoTel
Senior Member
Senior Member

Join date : 2013-01-19
Posts : 249 Points : 6996
Reputation : 163
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by GoTel on Mon 23 Sep 2013, 6:05 am

Your poll choices are very funny ... very funny indeed.

Telnic still promotes stories on its website:

http://telnic.org/community-stories.html

Half of them have dropped their .tel and the other half look like the most amateur, ridiculous webpages on the Internet today.

Get a Telname page and get a Telname Directory and then .tel has a reason to live ... still.
avatar
mikeseaton
High-Flyer
High-Flyer

Location : Dorset UK
Join date : 2012-06-11
Posts : 2207 Points : 44819
Reputation : 836
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by mikeseaton on Mon 23 Sep 2013, 6:36 pm

Shame this .tel has been dropped - .tel desperately needs to be seen as "cool" - so why have Telnic left this dead link on http://telnic.org/community-stories.html and http://telnic.org/community-story-olympians.html ?

amandabeard.tel Model and Olympic Gold medal winning swimmer Amanda Beard is also a photographer, sports presenter and spokeswoman for several animal rights groups. Beard made her first Olympic appearance at the 1996 Atlanta Olympic Games at the age of 14 and since then has captured a total of seven medals at four Olympic Games. Amanda says: "I always like to stay in touch and be accessible to my family and friends. Being on the road and splitting time between two homes, I need to be able to easily change my contact info and .tel makes it easy for me to point people in the right direction."

http://MikeSeaton.tel


___________________________________________________
Domain Sales: Sedo
eBay Sites: Mike 321 UK
Search Engines: Web | Video | Facebook | Google+ | Pinterest | Tel | Twitter
avatar
mikeseaton
High-Flyer
High-Flyer

Location : Dorset UK
Join date : 2012-06-11
Posts : 2207 Points : 44819
Reputation : 836
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by mikeseaton on Mon 23 Sep 2013, 6:51 pm

THIS GETS WORSE !

Check out the page .tel Story of the Olympians

Here's are the links to the 4 Olympians on this page:

http://amandabeard.tel
http://cobijones.tel
http://allisonbaver.tel
http://summersanders.tel

ALL 4 OLMYPIAN LINKS ARE DEAD LINKS !

Is anyone awake at Telnic - how can you carry on saying these Olympians love .tel when by their action in not renewing them they obviously don't ?

http://MikeSeaton.tel

PS. I expect this Olympian page will be taken down tomorrow - Telnic do read this forum - but unfortunately refuse to join in and answer perfectly legitimate questions !

Talking and listening to customer concerns is usually considered good PR !


___________________________________________________
Domain Sales: Sedo
eBay Sites: Mike 321 UK
Search Engines: Web | Video | Facebook | Google+ | Pinterest | Tel | Twitter
avatar
GoTel
Senior Member
Senior Member

Join date : 2013-01-19
Posts : 249 Points : 6996
Reputation : 163
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by GoTel on Mon 23 Sep 2013, 7:57 pm

mikeseaton wrote:ALL 4 OLMYPIAN LINKS ARE DEAD LINKS !
The ultimate fate of all .tel links without a REAL directory.

maxi
Insider
Insider

Join date : 2012-08-27
Posts : 993 Points : 22101
Reputation : 466
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by maxi on Tue 24 Sep 2013, 5:20 am

mikeseaton wrote:...how can you carry on saying these Olympians love .tel when by their action in not renewing them they obviously don't ?
I am not sure that it were they who had registered these TELs earlier. May be all these people even didn't knew that these TELs were theirs?

A lot of manipulation happen in this World.
avatar
Expert
Insider
Insider

Join date : 2012-08-10
Posts : 522 Points : 12464
Reputation : 351
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by Expert on Tue 24 Sep 2013, 6:01 am

maxi wrote:
mikeseaton wrote:...how can you carry on saying these Olympians love .tel when by their action in not renewing them they obviously don't ?
I am not sure that it were they who had registered these TELs earlier. May be all these people even didn't knew that these TELs were theirs?
Fadi Chehade and Dain Blanton don't know that they have a .tel domain either: http://www.teltalk.org/t962-president-and-ceo-of-icann
avatar
let
Junior Member
Junior Member

Join date : 2013-05-31
Posts : 41 Points : 2566
Reputation : 24
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by let on Tue 24 Sep 2013, 6:17 am

Expert wrote:Fadi Chehade and Dain Blanton don't know that they have a .tel domain either: http://www.teltalk.org/t962-president-and-ceo-of-icann
Cybersquatting in its purest way!

That applies to this domain as well from which the White House has not the slightest knowledge: www.barack.tel
avatar
TELwax
Advanced Member
Advanced Member

Join date : 2013-06-01
Posts : 92 Points : 3412
Reputation : 31
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by TELwax on Tue 24 Sep 2013, 6:36 am

awareness for TEL might take various routes...

On one hand, there are millions of Barack who could try to claim ownership.
On the over hand, this is an obvious tribute to BO by some fan (as stated on the page) , never the White House will protest against this .

And if they do claim on behalf of President itself, it will be such a NICE recognition to TELs that the owner will certainly faciliate further Press Covers and will receive free coupons from TELnames for his entire life for such nice PR !

Do not mention therefore cybersquating when it is not really appropriate ?

BTW , TELs are said/ measured being the lowest cybersquatted DN in cyberspace (there might be some mathematical reason also, but this is interesting ... ) .Funny.
Read page 4 on  http://news.dot-nxt.com/sites/news.dot-nxt.com/files/NameSentry-Report-2013.pdf

Surprising ?


Last edited by TELwax on Tue 24 Sep 2013, 6:50 am; edited 1 time in total
avatar
let
Junior Member
Junior Member

Join date : 2013-05-31
Posts : 41 Points : 2566
Reputation : 24
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by let on Tue 24 Sep 2013, 6:49 am

TELwax wrote:BTW , TELs are said/ measured being the lowest cybersquatted DN in cyberspace (there might be some mathematical reason also, but this is interesting ... ) .Funny.
Read page 4 on  http://news.dot-nxt.com/sites/news.dot-nxt.com/files/NameSentry-Report-2013.pdf
This report is about phishers, spammers, and malware-wielding criminals. Cybersquatting is not the subject of this analysis.

Only because www.barack.tel may be in the interest of the White House, it doesn't mean that the current use of the domain is legitimate.
If the White House claims this domain in court, the current owner will loss it without doubt.
avatar
TELwax
Advanced Member
Advanced Member

Join date : 2013-06-01
Posts : 92 Points : 3412
Reputation : 31
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by TELwax on Tue 24 Sep 2013, 7:07 am

Thanks for your interesting imput.
You are right, and also this is some reason why TEL tld stands at first rank in this survey, abuses listed  here at second sight are indeed mainly about security issues, although spam is clearly mentionned as well as related subjects,.

However concerning your point about White House, I do not know what are the rules you are familiar with in your country, but this is very unlikely any legal action would be granted some legal foundations in the US, of course provided the content about "Barack" is not defamatory to BO, which is obvious here ...
avatar
TELwax
Advanced Member
Advanced Member

Join date : 2013-06-01
Posts : 92 Points : 3412
Reputation : 31
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by TELwax on Tue 24 Sep 2013, 7:13 am

Afterthoughts : Hard times ahead for courts with the thousands of gTLD lining up  ;+)
avatar
Watcher
Junior Member
Junior Member

Join date : 2013-03-12
Posts : 41 Points : 2976
Reputation : 24
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by Watcher on Tue 24 Sep 2013, 7:19 am

TELwax wrote:Afterthoughts : Hard times ahead for courts with the thousands of gTLD lining up  ;+)
ICANN is preparing for it:

http://www.domainforum.online/t105-the-trademark-clearinghouse-protect-your-trademark-online
avatar
MWX
Senior Member
Senior Member

Join date : 2013-07-17
Posts : 205 Points : 5921
Reputation : 75
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by MWX on Tue 24 Sep 2013, 10:37 am

maxi wrote:So, I personally do not see any other logical explanation to this unwillingness to improve product, except of the variant that they purposely  do not want to improve it.

And in this way we again return to the previously discussed topic: http://www.teltalk.org/t1099-the-reason-why-telnic-does-nothing-against-falling-registration-numbers?highlight=registration
I can think of only one reason why Telnic doesn't give any signs: Telnic doesn't believe in its own success and doesn't want to scare the last customers away by saying anything wrong.
avatar
MWX
Senior Member
Senior Member

Join date : 2013-07-17
Posts : 205 Points : 5921
Reputation : 75
Warning level : 100 %

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by MWX on Tue 24 Sep 2013, 10:43 am

mikeseaton wrote:THIS GETS WORSE !

Check out the page .tel Story of the Olympians

Here's are the links to the 4 Olympians on this page:

http://amandabeard.tel
http://cobijones.tel
http://allisonbaver.tel
http://summersanders.tel

ALL 4 OLMYPIAN LINKS ARE DEAD LINKS !
After checking the historical who-is entries for the domains I get the impression that none of these athletes have registered the domains themselves. It was just another marketing trick to pretend interest in this domain extension.

Sponsored content

Re: What's the best .tel strategy?

Post by Sponsored content


    Current date/time is Sun 20 Aug 2017, 9:36 am