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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by Holstern on Thu 19 Mar 2015, 7:36 pm

Let's see what ICANN has to say about it:
The registry Telnic violates law by not filing the annual financial accounts to the British government.

Last accounts Due: 30/04/2014 !!!

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1.) http://companycheck.co.uk/company/03555437/TELNIC-LIMITED/companies-house-docs
2.) http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk (Telnic's company number: 03555437)
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by Sunrise on Thu 19 Mar 2015, 7:54 pm

If I were Khashayar Mahdavi, I would now quickly submit the balance sheet for 2013 (what he has tried to prevent for one year).
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by josh. on Thu 19 Mar 2015, 7:57 pm

Sunrise wrote:If I were Khashayar Mahdavi, I would now quickly submit the balance sheet for 2013 (what he has tried to prevent for one year).

Maybe Calder & Co. will act more wisely now:

A London accounting firm continues the business of Telnic
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by 4444 on Thu 19 Mar 2015, 8:11 pm

Sunrise wrote:If I were Khashayar Mahdavi, I would now quickly submit the balance sheet for 2013 (what he has tried to prevent for one year).
He can't say that he wasn't warned. This discussion has been going on since last year.
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by Telnot on Thu 19 Mar 2015, 9:04 pm

I love Telnic. They always have so strange and funny ideas - and absolutely no sense about how to run a business.
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by 4444 on Fri 20 Mar 2015, 6:06 am

Telnot wrote:I love Telnic. They always have so strange and funny ideas - and absolutely no sense about how to run a business.

Yes, in a way Telnic's actions are very entertaining!
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by MWX on Fri 20 Mar 2015, 6:20 am

With every day that passes, Telnic messes it up more and more!
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by mikeseaton on Fri 20 Mar 2015, 11:34 am

mikeseaton wrote:Name & Registered Office:
TELNIC LIMITED
CALDER & CO
16 CHARLES II STREET
LONDON
UNITED KINGDOM
SW1Y 4NW
Company No. 03555437

Accounting Reference Date: 28/12
Last Accounts Made Up To: 30/06/2012  (SMALL)
Next Accounts Due: 30/04/2014

Name & Registered Office:
TELNAMES LIMITED
CALDER & CO
16 CHARLES II STREET
LONDON
UNITED KINGDOM
SW1Y 4NW
Company No. 07471889

Accounting Reference Date: 28/12
Last Accounts Made Up To: 30/06/2012  (SMALL)
Next Accounts Due: 30/04/2014

BAD NEWS - it seems Companies House have entered an incorrect Next Accounts Due date shown above as 30/04/2014 on their web site.

I have just had a phone conversation with them and apparently on 18/03/2015 (2 days ago when both Telnic Ltd. and Telnames Ltd. accounts were due) they again used the legal loophole - shortening the Accounting Reference Date by 1 day giving them a further 3 months to submit their accounts - the correct Due Date which should be shown on Companies House records for both companies is 18/06/2015.

The games being played by Telnic Ltd. and Telnames Ltd. to delay the submission of their 2013 accounts continue !

There appear to be no plans by Companies House (who only obey Company Law as laid down by the Government) to plug this legal loophole.

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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by ixida on Fri 20 Mar 2015, 12:09 pm

mikeseaton wrote:There appear to be no plans by Companies House (who only obey Company Law as laid down by the Government) to plug this legal loophole.

Does this mean that Telnic can continue changing the ARD for the year 2013 every three months forever - without limitation?
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by josh. on Fri 20 Mar 2015, 1:04 pm

Crazy !!!
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by TelBlogger on Fri 20 Mar 2015, 4:35 pm

For at least 5 years Telnic have been using a unique business strategy which can best be summarized in the following aphorism:

F**k Our Customers

Enough time has elapsed to make a conclusion about the efficacy of this approach: it doesn't work!
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by aliencafe on Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:19 am


  • Corporate acquisitions and disposals




Straight from the Calder and Co website...
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by josh. on Sat 21 Mar 2015, 6:16 am

Aliencafe, very nice!

That would be the best possible option (the only good one)!
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by mikeseaton on Sat 21 Mar 2015, 7:36 pm

josh. wrote:Aliencafe, very nice!

That would be the best possible option (the only good one)!

See http://www.teltalk.org/t4334p24-a-london-accounting-firm-continues-the-business-of-telnic#14706

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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by Spocky on Sat 21 Mar 2015, 10:27 pm

Telnic's behavior is absolutely not acceptable!
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by mikeseaton on Thu 26 Mar 2015, 6:13 pm

I renewed several of my premium .tels today !

Why you may wonder with all the current Telnic/Telnames issues ?

Well IMO Telnic/Telnames will be handing over the reins of the .tel project in the next few months - the coffers to pay for salaries/expenses and operating costs (including substantial ICANN fixed & variable costs) must be getting close to empty by now !

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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by TelBlogger on Thu 26 Mar 2015, 9:36 pm

Premium .tels: an oxymoron if I have ever heard one!
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by Holstern on Fri 27 Mar 2015, 3:05 am

mikeseaton wrote:Well IMO Telnic/Telnames will be handing over the reins of the .tel project in the next few months - the coffers to pay for salaries/expenses and operating costs (including substantial ICANN fixed & variable costs) must be getting close to empty by now !

I doubt it! Telnic cut all costs by firing all employees and closing the London office. They are prepared now to survive the next years without revenues.

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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by maxi on Fri 27 Mar 2015, 3:17 am

Holstern wrote:They are prepared now to survive the next years without revenues.
If so, then what the aim of that could be?
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by Holstern on Fri 27 Mar 2015, 3:24 am

maxi wrote:
Holstern wrote:They are prepared now to survive the next years without revenues.
If so, then what the aim of that could be?

Probably hoping for better times or for a miracle.
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by mikeseaton on Fri 27 Mar 2015, 1:15 pm

@TelBlogger, @Holstern

There's not much point in hanging around the TelTalk Forum unless you at least believe in the .TEL idea (a single point of contact that works seamlessly on all internet devices) though no doubt you would agree with me that Telnic's IMPLEMENTATION of that idea has been a disaster !

It's obviously impossible for any of us to be certain of .TEL's future until it is clear if/when someone else is given the opportunity and is prepared to pick up the reins.

My reading of the situation - and BTW both Kash and Ian Bowen-Morris say on their personal .tels that the Percy Street office is still open - is that the change in Registerd Office (also reflected on the Telnic/Telnames company web sites) to the new accountants' address is in preparation for the sale of the two companies in the very near future.

Remember if they don't take action in 2015 they have to apply to ICANN for renewal (it's not automatic) of the .TEL licence in 2016 - my guess is that there could be some valid objections submitted to ICANN if they attempt this - not least of which would be their financial situation in another 12 months time !

On the basis of the above logic I've taken a punt and renewed (the cost is not that much at Name.com) several of my premium .tels  - I may be proved right or wrong in doing this - TIME WILL VERY SHORTLY .TEL !

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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by MWX on Fri 27 Mar 2015, 1:45 pm

I understand Mike's opinion completely. But since Telnic don't speak for many years, we can't know what their plans are.

Like Maxi wrote, maybe Kash is planning to buy the company for $1.
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by Toptel on Fri 27 Mar 2015, 2:44 pm

MWX wrote:Like Maxi wrote, maybe Kash is planning to buy the company for $1.
I expect him doing this smarter than the last time when Telnic founded Telnames.
This time he'll found a new company not associated to his real name.
Perhaps he'll use the names of family members or other partners.
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by di7 on Sun 12 Apr 2015, 1:27 pm

One thing is for sure: IF .tel will ever get a second chance, it'll last many, many years to recover from Telnic.
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by Holstern on Sun 26 Apr 2015, 5:39 pm

Just for the record, here the expected reaction from ICANN:
Thank you for submitting a Registry Other complaint concerning the top-level domain .tel. ICANN has reviewed and closed your complaint because:

- Your complaint is incomplete (i.e., lacks sufficient detail) or is too broad (lacks sufficient specificity). If you have grounds to believe that .tel may be in breach of its Registry Agreement (RA), or any of the ICANN's Consensus Policies, please submit a new ticket and provide a detailed explanation.

ICANN considers this matter now closed. If you require future assistance, please submit a new complaint to ICANN at http://www.icann.org/resources/compliance/complaints .

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