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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by maxi on Thu 25 Dec 2014, 8:15 am

Is it enough just to make a link to this forum in the letter to them? Or it needs to describe all the case in details in the letter?
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by 4444 on Thu 25 Dec 2014, 8:23 am

It's enough to write a short e-mail to fraud@companieshouse.gov.uk with the following information:

Company name and address: Telnic Limited, 37 Percy Street, London, W1T 2DJ
Company registered number: 03555437
Your complaint: What is your complaint against the company?

Alternatively you can use this form: https://www.insolvencydirect.bis.gov.uk/ExternalOnlineForms/CompanyComplaint.aspx
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by 4444 on Thu 25 Dec 2014, 8:26 am

You can make a complaint if you have reasonable grounds to suspect a company that is currently active of:

  • Causing significant harm to customers, suppliers, etc.
  • Breaking the law, e.g. fraud
  • Serious misconduct, e.g. company assets have not been used properly
  • Having a significant irregularity in its affairs
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by Killing on Thu 25 Dec 2014, 8:31 am

4444 wrote:
  • Causing significant harm to customers, suppliers, etc.
  • Breaking the law, e.g. fraud
  • Serious misconduct, e.g. company assets have not been used properly
  • Having a significant irregularity in its affairs

All four reasons reflect Telnic's behaviour, but number 1 and 2 fit the best.

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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by maxi on Thu 25 Dec 2014, 10:01 am

4444 wrote:You can make a complaint if you have reasonable grounds to suspect a company that is currently active of:

  • Causing significant harm to customers, suppliers, etc.
  • Breaking the law, e.g. fraud
  • Serious misconduct, e.g. company assets have not been used properly
  • Having a significant irregularity in its affairs

I indeed do not know are my suspicious reasonable or not? Because if suspicions are reasonable then they are not suspicions but a certainty.


If the letter would be like this:

"Dear Sirs,
 
I suspect that Telnic Ltd intentionally delays to publish company’s annual financial report for the financial year of 2013.
 
Now we already have the date of 25th of December 2014, and still not have Telnic Ltd report from the year 2013. As a customer and a buyer of products of Telnic Ltd, I worry very much about situation in this company because it can influence my business.
 
Please, look to the attached link to the forum about Telnic Ltd where this situation is described with more details: http://www.teltalk.org/t1733-telnic-pulls-a-cunning-move
 
Sincerely yours, maxi"
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by 4444 on Thu 25 Dec 2014, 10:27 am

@maxi

That sounds very impartial without any wrong accusations. I like your text.

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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by maxi on Thu 25 Dec 2014, 10:47 am

maxi wrote:
4444 wrote:You can make a complaint if you have reasonable grounds to suspect a company that is currently active of:

  • Causing significant harm to customers, suppliers, etc.
  • Breaking the law, e.g. fraud
  • Serious misconduct, e.g. company assets have not been used properly
  • Having a significant irregularity in its affairs

I indeed do not know are my suspicious reasonable or not? Because if suspicions are reasonable then they are not suspicions but a certainty.


If the letter would be like this:

"Dear Sirs,
 
I suspect that Telnic Ltd intentionally delays to publish company’s annual financial report for the financial year of 2013.
 
Now we already have the date of 25th of December 2014, and still not have Telnic Ltd report from the year 2013. As a customer and a buyer of products of Telnic Ltd, I worry very much about situation in this company because it can influence my business.
 
Please, look to the attached link to the forum about Telnic Ltd where this situation is described with more details: http://www.teltalk.org/t1733-telnic-pulls-a-cunning-move
 
Sincerely yours, maxi"

4444 wrote:@maxi

That sounds very impartial without any wrong accusations. I like your text.

4444, thanks!
 
May I ask, may be there are some grammar or other errors, which could be amended?
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by 4444 on Thu 25 Dec 2014, 10:53 am

Your letter is just fine. I would only recommend to add Telnic's registered number 03555437.

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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by maxi on Thu 25 Dec 2014, 11:21 am

4444 wrote:Your letter is just fine. I would only recommend to add Telnic's registered number 03555437.
I added an attachment with address and registered number as this:

a letter wrote:Dear Sirs,
 
I suspect that Telnic Ltd intentionally delays to publish company’s annual financial report for the financial year of 2013.
 
Now we already have the date of 25th of December 2014, and still not have Telnic Ltd report from the year 2013. As a customer and a buyer of products of Telnic Ltd, I worry very much about situation in this company because it can influence my business.
 
Please, look to the attached link to the forum about Telnic Ltd where this situation is described with more details: http://www.teltalk.org/t1733-telnic-pulls-a-cunning-move
 
Sincerely yours, maxi

Attachment
Company name and address: Telnic Limited, 37 Percy Street, London, W1T 2DJ
Company registered number: 03555437

And to send the letter I need to this email: fraud@companieshouse.gov.uk
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by 4444 on Thu 25 Dec 2014, 11:31 am

Perfect! Please let us know as soon you receive an answer. We are very curious.

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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by maxi on Thu 25 Dec 2014, 11:47 am

4444 wrote:Perfect! Please let us know as soon you receive an answer. We are very curious.

OK! Just now I sent the letter.

4444, thanks for the help!
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by ixida on Thu 25 Dec 2014, 3:22 pm

2015 will be interesting. Probably another year without progress, but perhaps with some legal occurrences.
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by MWX on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 4:54 am

It's so sad that Telnic spends all its energy for irregular activities. .tel could have become great, but instead Telnic decided to destroy .tel for its own benefit.
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by Starfighter on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 8:57 am

Mister Khashayar Mahdavi, delayed filing of insolvency is a crime!
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by Sunrise on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 11:13 am

It won't be the first time that due to deception a member of Telnic's management board has to go to prison:
http://www.teltalk.org/t1446-visionex-fabien-chalandon-mis-en-examen-et-incarcere
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by 4444 on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 11:32 am

Do you still wonder why Telnic closed its official forum?
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by Expert on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 12:42 pm

More information on the topic:
Company director disqualification

You can be banned (‘disqualified’) from being a company director if you don’t meet your legal responsibilities.

As a director of a limited company, the law says you must:

  • try to make the company a success, using your skills, experience and judgment
  • follow the company’s rules, shown in its articles of association
  • make decisions for the benefit of the company, not yourself
  • tell other shareholders if you might personally benefit from a transaction the company makes
  • keep company records and report changes to Companies House and HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC)
  • make sure the company’s accounts are a ‘true and fair view’ of the business’ finances
  • register for Self Assessment and send a personal Self Assessment tax return every year

https://www.gov.uk/company-director-disqualification
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by Expert on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 1:06 pm

To keep it simple:
What is bankruptcy?

Bankruptcy is one way of dealing with debts you cannot pay.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/bankruptcy

I.e. as long Telnic pays it debts, Telnic isn't bankrupt.
Since Telnic is hiding its balance sheet, we can't know at what moment this situation occurs exactly.
We only know from Telnic's history and the current business development that around the current point of time all assets should be gone already.

Telnic has several options now:

  • Applying for (new) debts
  • Applying for increasing shares from the shareholders
  • Increasing revenues (currently not realistic)
  • Selling the company (complete unrealistic)
  • Filing for bankruptcy

However, no matter what plans Telnic has, it must fulfill its obligations to publish its company records.
In this matter Telnic currently violates the law!
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by 4444 on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 3:29 pm

This is also unrealistic, because a financial institution wants to see the balance sheet:
Expert wrote:
  • Applying for (new) debts
Remaining options after cutting the unrealistic:
Expert wrote:
  1. Applying for increasing shares from the shareholders
  2. Filing for bankruptcy
For option 1 it wouldn't be necessary to hide the balance sheet from the public.

Consequently the most realistic option is delaying the insolvency as long as possible, collecting as much money as possible from the domain owners, paying luxury salaries meanwhile and filing for insolvency after the possibility to keep the company alive has gone.
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by MWX on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 3:55 pm

That answers all open questions (and explains why Telnic doesn't want to invest money in developing the product anymore)!
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by ixida on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 4:01 pm

Amazing facts collected by the research of forum members. Thank you very much!
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by MWX on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 4:03 pm

ixida wrote:Amazing facts ...

It's a scandal!
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by 4444 on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 4:16 pm

After Telnic stopped all communication 4 years ago, now we need to know what the Companies House has to say about this.
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by TelFan on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 4:19 pm

4444 wrote:Consequently the most realistic option is delaying the insolvency as long as possible, collecting as much money as possible from the domain owners, paying luxury salaries meanwhile and filing for insolvency after the possibility to keep the company alive has gone.

Sorry guys, is this not been known for years?
How else the behavior of Telnic can be explained?
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Re: Telnic pulls a cunning move !

Post by 4444 on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 4:21 pm

Before it was only speculation, but with the current move by Telnic it becomes clear.

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