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Telnames now shares the same destiny with its parent company Telnic

Post by Toptel on Sat 04 Oct 2014, 5:48 am

  • No development
  • No communication
  • No marketing
  • No updates
  • Strongly shrinking sales

Examples of Telnames' resources:
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Re: Telnames now shares the same destiny with its parent company Telnic

Post by Spocky on Sat 04 Oct 2014, 6:00 am

Perhaps it's time to found a third company after Telnic and Telnames. It could be used to sell new generic top-level-domains.
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Re: Telnames now shares the same destiny with its parent company Telnic

Post by Tim Spears on Sat 04 Oct 2014, 6:21 am

He he! With Telnic's experience of total failure a lot of innovation will be brought to the market.
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Re: Telnames now shares the same destiny with its parent company Telnic

Post by Sunrise on Sat 04 Oct 2014, 6:25 am

Spocky wrote:Perhaps it's time to found a third company after Telnic and Telnames. It could be used to sell new generic top-level-domains.

Please not! Telnic will do everything to destroy nTLDs, too!
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Re: Telnames now shares the same destiny with its parent company Telnic

Post by mikeseaton on Fri 10 Oct 2014, 4:59 pm

Toptel wrote:

  • No development
  • No communication
  • No marketing
  • No updates
  • Strongly shrinking sales

Examples of Telnames' resources:


@Toptel - It was the case that all marketing/development resources were directed at Telnames single-page .tels rather than the Telnic subdomain multi-page .tels.

But I've just checked your 2 links:

http://tel-names.tumblr.com shows a date of 9 December - "Posted 10 months ago" according to the last post.

http://blog.telnames.com is even worse - it just comes up with the error message "Error establishing a database connection".

Who's minding the marketing and development positions at Telnic/Telnames - whoever it is needs to be reading these TelTalk posts and taking ACTION !

Customer perception counts for a lot in business - what kind of image about Telnames do these 2 links give ?

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Re: Telnames now shares the same destiny with its parent company Telnic

Post by Tim Spears on Sat 11 Oct 2014, 2:16 am

Sorry, but there is simply no budget available for marketing - neither at Telnic nor Telnames.

One serious word:

You can be lucky if .tel survives at all. But if .tel survives, no action will happen in the future anymore.
You have to accept the fact that .tel will settle with registration numbers below 100,000 soon - and will stay there for the rest of its existence.

I don’t like it either, but that’s the truth!
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Re: Telnames now shares the same destiny with its parent company Telnic

Post by mikeseaton on Sat 11 Oct 2014, 7:04 pm

Tim Spears wrote:You can be lucky if .tel survives at all. But if .tel survives, no action will happen in the future anymore.
You have to accept the fact that .tel will settle with registration numbers below 100,000 soon - and will stay there for the rest of its existence.

I don’t like it either, but that’s the truth!

@Tim - I hope you're wrong - I still believe in .TEL's original concept of a SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT THAT WORKS SEAMLESSLY ON ALL INTERNET DEVICES.

But until Telnic/Telnames runs out of the last of its $35,000,000 shareholder investment and gets taken over - or simply goes bust - it seems all we can do is sit and wait ?

Or perhaps get on with our lives in the real world, outside of the bubble that Telnic/Telnames appears to have built around itself !

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Re: Telnames now shares the same destiny with its parent company Telnic

Post by Tim Spears on Sat 11 Oct 2014, 7:59 pm

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Re: Telnames now shares the same destiny with its parent company Telnic

Post by mikeseaton on Sat 11 Oct 2014, 8:17 pm

@Tim - I emphasise I still believe in the .TEL concept - but simply have no confidence any more in Telnic/Telnames ability to successfully implement this idea.

The reason I still believe in the single point of contact idea is that it's incredibly useful to just give someone you're dealing with, either on a professional level or personal level, a SINGLE UNIQUE INTERNET ID for ALL MEANS OF COMMUNICATION.

I've used http://MikeSeaton.tel for this purpose many times - it's so much easier, say when on the phone, to quote a single easily-remembered contact medium (that also links to your web sites and social media) rather than risk someone writing down a phone number, or email address, or any other contact means incorrectly - or them having to write all of these down at once even if they do it correctly.

On a mobile phone you also have the click-to-call faciltiy so you really don't need to know a person's phone number any more, and if they change it they don't have the hassle of contacting all their contacts to let them know about their new number.

BUT it's no good if "Joe Public" doesn't know about this brave new world - as he/she doesn't - but Telnic/Telnames just don't seem to "get it".

One classic example - London (the home of Telnic) hosted the 2012 Olympics and here was a once in a lifetime opportunity to get .TEL seen by BILLIONS of people.

It might have cost a six or seven figure sum - but Telnic/Telnames have had $35,000,000 of other people's money to cover the cost of product marketing (and development).

What happened at the London 2012 Olympics regarding .tel ?

ZILCH - NADA - NOTHING - such a HUGE OPPORTUNITY LOST !

So yes I still believe in the .TEL concept - just not in Telnic/Telnames ability to deliver it to the mass marketplace !

http://MikeSeaton.tel

PS. And I haven't touched upon the benefits of .TEL Phase 2 (Dial/Email/Skype etc by Name) and the potential usefulness of a .TEL Global Directory if it existed !


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Post by Toptel on Sun 12 Oct 2014, 4:41 am

We all agree that a .tel success is impossible as long .tel is managed by Telnic.
But then a lot of questions come into mind:

  • How long it will take to see a successor?
  • Is anyone willing to invest money in a heavily loss-making business?
  • If we see a successor, will he invest more money in marketing than Telnic?
  • How long will the transition to a successor take?
  • We had a completely different environment in 2009. Can .tel survive a fight against more than 1,000 nTLDs now?

As everyone can easily see a participation in .tel is a long shot with many uncertainties and no realizable value for the next years.
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Re: Telnames now shares the same destiny with its parent company Telnic

Post by mikeseaton on Mon 13 Oct 2014, 7:01 am

Toptel wrote:We all agree that a .tel success is impossible as long .tel is managed by Telnic.
But then a lot of questions come into mind:

  • How long it will take to see a successor?
  • Is anyone willing to invest money in a heavily loss-making business?
  • If we see a successor, will he invest more money in marketing than Telnic?
  • How long will the transition to a successor take?
  • We had a completely different environment in 2009. Can .tel survive a fight against more than 1,000 nTLDs now?


@Toptel - Fair Comment !

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Post by mikeseaton on Tue 21 Oct 2014, 5:17 pm

mikeseaton wrote:@Toptel - It was the case that all marketing/development resources were directed at Telnames single-page .tels rather than the Telnic subdomain multi-page .tels.

But I've just checked your 2 links:

http://tel-names.tumblr.com shows a date of 9 December - "Posted 10 months ago" according to the last post.

http://blog.telnames.com is even worse - it just comes up with the error message "Error establishing a database connection".

Who's minding the marketing and development positions at Telnic/Telnames - whoever it is needs to be reading these TelTalk posts and taking ACTION !

Customer perception counts for a lot in business - what kind of image about Telnames do these 2 links give ?

Looks like the Telnames Blog has now gone away - http://blog.telnames.com has been changed to just redirect to the Telnames home page !

So it appears Telnames themselves now admit that nothing worth reporting on is happening at their company ?

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Post by Toptel on Wed 22 Oct 2014, 3:54 am

Telnic / Telnames still don't understand that a success isn't possible with the wrong approach!
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Post by Toptel on Mon 11 Apr 2016, 6:42 pm

Toptel wrote:Examples of Telnames' resources:

Abandoned by Telnames!
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Post by mikeseaton on Wed 13 Apr 2016, 10:25 am

Toptel wrote:
Toptel wrote:Examples of Telnames' resources:


Abandoned by Telnames!

Telnic/Telnames should really remove https://uk.pinterest.com/telnames/our-videos/ as well !

The Telnames "Go mobile in minutes" video at https://uk.pinterest.com/pin/187180928236265372/ is MISLEADING IN THE EXTREME !

It tries to persuade you to register a Telnames .Tel domain - BUT YOU CAN NO LONGER REGISTER A TELNAMES .TEL UNLESS YOU ALREADY HAVE A TELNAMES ACCOUNT THAT'S BEEN TRANSFERRED TO INTERNET.BS - which you will only have if you have already registered a Telnames .Tel !

TALK ABOUT CATCH 22 !

It's all explained at https://internetbs.net/telnames.html - which every Telnames.com page now redirects to - the relevant section is shown below:

Is my Telnames design changing to the standard Registrar .tel design?

No. All existing Telnames customers will continue to use the more advanced Telnames hosting setup. All new domain registrations through existing customer accounts will also use the more advanced Telnames hosting setup. In the future you may be given the option to choose which .tel website design you prefer but for now the Telnames design is the only design available through www.internet.bs for existing Telnames customers. www.internet.bs new customers and existing customers will continue to use the standard TelNIC registrar offering.

It appears to be all over now for the Telnames format as shown by http://yourbusiness.tel !

One question - Why do Telnic Ltd. (who have never offered the Telnames format via their Registrars, only directly via their 100% owned subsidiary Telnames Ltd.) continue to use the Telnames http://yourbusiness.tel domain name on their Telnic home page header at http://www.telnic.org ?

One more question - Why does Telnic/Telnames CEO Khashayar Mahdavi continue to use the Telnames format on his personal .tel at http://kash.tel when this format is no longer available to new customers ?

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Post by Sunrise on Thu 14 Apr 2016, 11:39 am

mikeseaton wrote:Why does Telnic/Telnames CEO Khashayar Mahdavi continue to use the Telnames format on his personal .tel at http://kash.tel when this format is no longer available to new customers ?

It seems that Mister Cash has understood that nothing really matters, since .tel is dead in any case.
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