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A fair request

Post by Telnic on Tue 30 Dec 2014, 3:58 pm

GoBigCity10-19-2010 01:55 AM




A fair request
 
Hello Telnic
I was previously a member (Triton NW) of this forum and left mainly due to my frustration with the slow progress being made. So, I moved on (no great loss to the forum, I am sure). I made a deal with my brother and gave him all of my .tels. I am not saying that it is all Telnic's fault. I am cursed with a very low patience level.

I have missed the excitement that came with the idea that I had finally found a ground floor technology and made my move. That being said, I have tried to figure out over the last few days, where things are now and where they are going.

I made this request before and now that I have highjacked my brothers login, I will make it again. Many of us have spent a lot of money and a HUGE amount of time on this adventure. My request is a simple one (Aled, please spare us from the "as we have said before" cut and paste vanilla non-answer reply) that I am sure many would agree with.

Please tell us in plain english, what is going on to make our investments (both financial and emotional) better. It is very simple. Just tell us what you know. It is not like we are a top secret race to cure cancer. Why all the secrecy. Just tell us what everybody does with their day. I love Telnic, .tel and the whole idea. I just want to know what is next. No eye rolling, you know its a fair request.

dotteler10-19-2010 05:50 PM




My take is it's pretty simple: .tel works as a 'contact directory' and that's it.
Our hopes of making it anything on the par of a .com or any other TLD is simply our mistake.

maximka10-19-2010 09:29 PM




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Originally Posted by GoBigCity (Post 11214)
I made a deal with my brother and gave him all of my .tels


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It would be interesting to see your portfolio - or part of it. If you had domains of single English nouns - then, perhaps, it would be pity to refuse from all of them. Of course, the quantity of domains counts also - if there are too much of them in the portfolio, then they can trouble the daily life - "absorbing money" from home budget.[/size]

GoBigCity10-19-2010 10:49 PM




Not so much the money. More about the time.
Anybody notice the lack of response? Come on guys...

dotteler10-19-2010 11:36 PM




I think we're trying to squeeze something out of telnic that just isn't there. They're holding ground about what the roadmap of .tel is. I think it's justified. 
Just because several of us hopped in 'hook line and sinker' before we actually understood what the domain was to be doesn't mean that telnic owes us anything. 
.tel does what they said it will do.

GoBigCity10-20-2010 01:14 AM




Well there you have it. Words of wisdom. For the record, no reply from Telnic.
Enjoy the Kool Aid. I will check back in 6 months. Make sure to renew everything in your portfolio.

Cees10-20-2010 04:22 AM




Quote:



Originally Posted by dotteler (Post 11217)
My take is it's pretty simple: .tel works as a 'contact directory' and that's it.
Our hopes of making it anything on the par of a .com or any other TLD is simply our mistake.



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The above gives it to you in a nut shell. If you went in with your eyes open, there was no deception, expectation perhaps but not deception.[/size]

GoBigCity10-20-2010 04:54 PM




Cees
Nobody said deceived. It was just a fair request for more information. I understand if it is propiatary and the competition could find out and run with it but I dont think there is any competition so lets hear it.

can10-20-2010 06:58 PM




Recently I find telchina is making great effort to promote .tel in China.
To the difference compare with the activity before, the media and the person involved are famous and mainstream.
I know that on domain industry in China .tel is almost zero influence.
Now telchina is trying to popularizing the product to personal customers and teminal webmasters.
I am not sure if works,but it is a good start. I find so many famous IT persons to say about .tel. I guess that the head of telchina have good human relations in IT China.

marimax10-21-2010 02:29 PM




I am glad I figured it out from the first day what .tel is and registered appropriate domains.
Some people registered tons of totaly useless for.tel domains and now because they lost money they are giving .tel a bad name.
For me it was clear from the first day that .tel is and always will only be good for contact information and directories. 
I spent a lot of time populating my domains but it looks more and more like .tel is dying
Where are all great supporters of .tel ?
Even this forum is dying, very few comments now and telnic instead of working on new applications should spend time and money on advertising this concept but they work on giving us new applications nobody really needs.
I was attracted to it by it's sipmpicity. Anybody could have presence on the internet within minutes but now things are getting more complicated and soon you will need a computer programmer to be able to do anything with your .tel
This will kill this whole idea I am afraid so I think that Telnic, instead of spending time and money on adding a new applications that an average Joe will not be able to figure out how to use it , should concentrate on advertising their idea.
You can have the best product around but if nobody knows about it you will never succed.
Forget China.
You have to make it popular in North America first to be a success. If you don't you will die.
After all did Microsoft, Apple, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Flickr and many other high tech companies became popular in China or Europe first ?
I don't think you have to ignore the rest of the world but the key to our success is North American market and here apart from a bunch of enthusiasts nobody knows about .tel

GoBigCity10-21-2010 03:19 PM




Aled? 
These comments are not coming from a bunch of bashers. These commernts are from those of us that bought in 100% on the idea and invested time and money. When the BIG TIME supporters start to get a bad taste in their mouth, it is not a good sign.

Blunderer10-21-2010 04:51 PM




TelPages is the most unique element of the .tel "business". If you search it you only get .tels in response. It's my impression that much effort has been expended over the past 18 months on trying to make .tel like the rest of the dots, trying to get .tels ranked at the top of Google, etc. or, trying to promote individual .tel names/domains.

Why?

When most .tel sites were empty, searching Telpages would have been a waste of time but now, whilst there are still many empty domains (I admit I've got a lot I havn't had time (sometimes inclination) to activate yet), most searches produce a result of some kind.

I think the time is right to start promoting Telpages. I am now back on my domains, and will be getting basic info into them, with instructions on how to display on them. I then intend to promote TelPages by producing a plain business card with "TelPages" and underneath "www.telpages.com - a new search engine for mobile phones". Less than £30 per 1,000. I will distribute these wherever I have active domains.

We have to get people using Telpages, and convincing businesses that they dont need pay per click campaigns to be discovered if they associate with .tel

Comments?

spline10-22-2010 09:34 AM




As a private person or business person I will not use telpages since there are better options in my country.
There are 260.000+ telpages of these perhaps 100.000 are populated.

Many of these are directories and have more than one page, and many are personal with just one page lets just say that there are in avarage 3-4 pages per populated .tel thats 400-500.000 pages of info.

If I want to find a friend or a company I will go to the swedish yellowpages Eniro or Hitta which has every swedish company and person in them.

If I want to find an American/english company I will go to google which has every single company in the world.

I will probably not be using telpages before there are a million registered .tels...

So far there is only a few occasion I would check telpages:,

If I´m abroad in a small town and make a proximity search to see what companies/people have telpages.

If I want to find a number to a taxi I would check telpages.

If I know a person who has a telpage but forgot his/her page.

Imho right now the adaption of .telpages must increase and I think its to early to market the telpages.
Better to market a .tel names.

marimax10-23-2010 02:10 AM




Because I understood this concept from the start I've been trying to tell people to go ahead and register their city name + business or service like for example Bostonrestaurants.tel,
Denverlawyers.tel, Miamihotels.tel or even Stockholmtaxis.tel and on and on.
The key is to register these domains , populate it and let people know that they can easily find information about the business or service they are looking for simply by typing on their 
electronic devices www.Bostonrestaurants.tel , Denverlawyers.tel, Miamihotels.tel or even
Stockholmtaxis.tel
They don't have to go to Google because they know exactly what they are looking for.
I don't like Google at all and use it very rearly because when I type in for example the subject I am interested in I get information not related to this subject with the exeption of maybe 2,3 links 
With .tel it can be done very easily because it is so cheap and easy 
When I look on a daily drop list of .tel domains I wonder why people even spent their money on registering 95% of them.
There are thousands of cities and town around the world so there are a lot of opportunities for everybody, just go ahead and do it the right way and don't dream about .tel becoming another 
.com because it will never happen

Cees10-23-2010 08:36 PM




Quote
"You have to make it popular in North America first to be a success. If you don't you will die.
After all did Microsoft, Apple, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Flickr and many other high tech companies became popular in China or Europe first ?
I don't think you have to ignore the rest of the world but the key to our success is North American market and here apart from a bunch of enthusiasts nobody knows about .tel"



Marimex,
I am also of the view that North America would be the driver in making .tel a success a little sooner, however I've alluded to this in the past, in my opinion whilst ever they (USA) are hamstrung economically it's going to be a struggle, I'll probably get a few people jumping on me for this, but the real unemployment rate is over 20%, don't believe the ice cream main stream media publish.
This is the same demographic that would typically form a large part of the .tel buyers, .tel would not be a priority if your economic future is in the balance or if the Banksters have just foreclosed on you.

marimax10-25-2010 01:21 AM




Cees, current economic problems around the world play to .tel advantage.
There is no cheaper and quicker way to build a website than with .tel
Sure .tel is somewhat limited but you can put there all imortant information.
For example if you are on holidays in Miami and suddenly you need a dentist you could go to Google and start searching for a dentist in Miami but wouldn't it be simpler to go to miamidentists.tel and get the contact information to all Miami Dentists ?
We have to register these type of domains, populate them and let people know that such thing exist and when we cover all major cities and then smaller and smaller cities with these type of information we will succed.
It will be automatically in people minds. You need information about specific business in town you simply go to
city+business.tel and you have it

dob10-25-2010 09:24 AM




No Google, No Party
 
Top U.S. Search Sites – June 2010
All Search 100% 

1 Google 65.0% 
2 Yahoo! Search 13.7% 
3 MSN/Bing 13.4%
4 AOL Search 2.1% 
5 Ask.com Search 2.0% 
6 My Web Search 1.1% 
7 Comcast Search 0.5% 
8 NexTag Search 0.3% 
9 WhitePages Search 0.3% 
10 Yellow Pages Search 0.2% 
------------------------------------------------------
Do you have information about:
? Telpages Search ?.?
? .tel network ?.?
? City+business.tel Search ?.?

No google search engine position - no party

spline10-26-2010 04:45 PM




After all did Microsoft, Apple, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Flickr and many other high tech companies became popular in China or Europe first?

The asian market is huge and you definatly do not need to be popular in west first to become a successful company. Infact you dont even need to be popular or known in west at all...

Believing so just shows a lack of knowlege of the asian market which is not strange since western news only reports about western sites.

Every heard of QQ, nifty, ameblo, Nikoniko-douga etc etc...
http://chineseculture.about.com/od/m...inesesites.htm

marimax10-26-2010 09:08 PM




No I and I am sure that most of the people in the world never heard about mentioned sites but 
I am sure that people around the world know what Google, Yahoo, Facebook, Twitter and many others are and this is the difference you don't understand.
I am not hot about China at all and I am not dreaming about selling one pencil to each chinamen so I could become a millionaire and as a matter of fact I would never go to visit China even if they paid me to do it.
There are other facts about this "great" country that totaly turn me off it and no I am not blinded by the money alone.

spline10-27-2010 10:05 AM




Quote:



Originally Posted by marimax (Post 11302)
No I and I am sure that most of the people in the world never heard about mentioned sites but 
I am sure that people around the world know what Google, Yahoo, Facebook, Twitter and many others are and this is the difference you don't understand.
I am not hot about China at all and I am not dreaming about selling one pencil to each chinamen so I could become a millionaire and as a matter of fact I would never go to visit China even if they paid me to do it.
There are other facts about this "great" country that totaly turn me off it and no I am not blinded by the money alone.



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I´m not talking about wheter you like traveling to china or your opinion about the chinese politics, my point was that you do not need to get big in west/states first to get big.
You might prefer them to get big in west first but that is another question.
Things that get big in Asia spread to west to, ever heard about Sony, Sega, Nintendo, Toyota, etc ;)[/size]
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Re: A fair request

Post by Telnic on Tue 30 Dec 2014, 3:58 pm

can10-27-2010 03:41 PM




Agree that at Internet industry if sucess in USA then easily sucess in other region include in China.
Also feel that China is not a creatively country but just imitate other succeed mode.

Shahid10-28-2010 08:11 AM




It was nice to read the whole of this Thread, i have a few thoughts i would like to share as well.

1) .tel is doing everything ( behind the scenes as they say ) but in reality we don't see much happening

2) .tel in china might be a good initiative not only for the population but the way they are advancing who knows they might come out with a software or something that could change the future of .tel ( in a cheaper manner ) rather then the amount of money being spent else where which no one is ready to even do. considering what Telchina did with their own Telhosting providing templates/backgrounds

3) people who invest in .tel have 50/50 chances to lose or gain people who are utilizing their .tel they have 1000% percent to gain from the SEO point of view. 

Thanks

Shahid

marimax10-28-2010 10:43 PM




Can you are right, they are the best in copying someone else idea and because they pay their people $1. 00 a day it's not difficult to be "successful"
The worst part of it is that western governments tolerate this and turn a blind eye to it.

telrific10-29-2010 01:19 PM




Quote:



Originally Posted by GoBigCity (Post 11214)
Hello Telnic
I was previously a member (Triton NW) of this forum and left mainly due to my frustration with the slow progress being made. So, I moved on (no great loss to the forum, I am sure). I made a deal with my brother and gave him all of my .tels. I am not saying that it is all Telnic's fault. I am cursed with a very low patience level.

I have missed the excitement that came with the idea that I had finally found a ground floor technology and made my move. That being said, I have tried to figure out over the last few days, where things are now and where they are going.

I made this request before and now that I have highjacked my brothers login, I will make it again. Many of us have spent a lot of money and a HUGE amount of time on this adventure. My request is a simple one (Aled, please spare us from the "as we have said before" cut and paste vanilla non-answer reply) that I am sure many would agree with.

Please tell us in plain english, what is going on to make our investments (both financial and emotional) better. It is very simple. Just tell us what you know. It is not like we are a top secret race to cure cancer. Why all the secrecy. Just tell us what everybody does with their day. I love Telnic, .tel and the whole idea. I just want to know what is next. No eye rolling, you know its a fair request.



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Hey Triton NW, Good To See You Back, Everyone That Left Is Missed !

Most, if not all, also share your frustration with the slow progress.

I could get into a political discussion over the progress of socialist vs. capitalist but won't even go there !

In order to see progress on the level we expect, it's going to take Individuals.

Individuals who have .TEL pages USE .TEL pages. (Skin in the game)

To that end, I created an effort that encourages this isolated progression:

PeoplePlace.tel

This doesn't answer your questions, but is definitely a helpful effort gaining RAPIDLY.

Daily requests for additions, hopefully it will help the progression !

Still in initial population along with new requests, but the right idea for sure !

:)[/size]

GoBigCity11-22-2010 10:48 PM




I am not sure if the original question that started this thread actually got answered.

Telnic, please review the original request that started this thread. If the request is out of line, then tell us and we will go quietly into the night. Irritated, but quiet.

Thank you

spline11-23-2010 08:57 PM




Havnt you read the newsletters since you posted this? Thats one way Telnic is telling you what they are up to.

nadya11-24-2010 11:40 AM




Hi, 

We've recently updated our roadmap focusing on initiatives for 2011. Our upcoming newsletters will also make some important announcements and outline our vision for next year. Stay tuned.

GoBigCity11-25-2010 05:04 PM




I was talking with one of my customers that is building a new social media site. He and his partners have been at it for a few years. I asked him about how he paid his bills and he informed me that the web site was not his full time job. He and his team just worked on it during every spare minute. A thought occured to me and I was hoping to ask Telnic. We hear from several names on this forum like Henri, Justin, Nadya, Aled and Ian and there are more that dont participate on this forum. Is Telnic a full time job for all of these people? I am very curious as to what is a typical day at the office like for each of them?

henri11-26-2010 11:26 AM




Between thinking up product positioning, helping to plan new features, working on new deals, writing iPhone apps to mainly validate our APIs from a developer's viewpoint and keeping up-to-date with the latest happenings in the industry, I'm slightly full-timed to say the least.
Typical day at the office? Eyes looking at a screen, fingers on keyboard, mouth sometimes on skype mike. Have to watch the calorie intake very closely to stay slim.

rgolds11-26-2010 03:27 PM




Quote:



Originally Posted by henri (Post 11664)
Typical day at the office? Eyes looking at a screen, fingers on keyboard, mouth sometimes on skype mike. Have to watch the calorie intake very closely to stay slim.


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Might I suggest http://www.treadmill-desk.com/ :P[/size]

GoBigCity11-26-2010 06:25 PM




Once again, Henri brings me back from the ledge.

GoBigCity12-14-2010 11:12 PM




Hello all,
I hope everyone is having a great holiday season. It seems like there is a little bit of momentum from time to time. I am curious to learn what everyone ilanning to do come March. I assume that like me, the bulk of your registrations came 21 months ago. Renew and keep the faith? Bail out and wash your hands of it. Which will it be?

Cees12-14-2010 11:28 PM




Keep the faith

Simon G12-14-2010 11:36 PM




Keeping the faith, this kiddy is just starting to walk

dialaroom12-15-2010 09:29 AM




No doubt in my mind

boracay.tel12-15-2010 11:59 AM




Dropping all but a few.

GoBigCity12-15-2010 07:53 PM




Hello Boracay
I have a similar strategy. In the frenzy, I bought a lot of the same names with and without hyphens to have them all. I will be cancelling all of the duplicates

maximka12-15-2010 08:34 PM




From the very beginning I had decided that I will keep a limited number of TELs. 

So, if I find some TEL, which seems for me to be better then some another of my TELs, then I register that better TEL and at the same time drop one of the "worst" of my TELs.

I try not to drop single English nouns, with only few exceptions.

maximka12-15-2010 08:57 PM




P.S.
Also, for some time I have an idea to propose for sale not simple, "bare" TEL-domains, but TEL-domains, which are already populated and have some position in Google ranking.

Perhaps, everyone will agree, that it would be not very difficult to persuade potential buyer to buy your TEL, if you can show him this TEL at the first or second page of Google search results for this or other single English word. The necessary condition for this is to make an interesting or useful project on your TEL and populate it. 

Because of that idea it is very pity for me to drop TELs from my collection.

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