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How to push name dialing into the global market?

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How to push name dialing into the global market?

Post by JH on Tue 10 Jul 2012, 9:33 pm

mikeseaton wrote:Henri's (Chief Strategist & CTO of Telnic) post from Telnic's forum made on 28 March 2011 explains it all:

There is no need whatsoever to remember phone numbers or email addresses or skype ids, or MSN usernames. They're all a single DNS query away, just like IP addresses are a single DNS query away from web server names.

However, for this long term goal to be achieved, mobile phone companies and email client developers and Skype (and all the rest) will have to integrate this .tel lookup in their apps (just like Netscape integrated the A record lookup). For them to feel the value of doing this, first there needs to be a certain critical mass of .tel domains being used in the wild. Therefore there needs to be another orthogonal value proposition that is appealing to a large enough population that the critical mass will be reached.

And that other value proposition is what you see today as being generally how .tel is thought about: a simple, powerful way to publish your own contact information online, under your complete control.

So yeah, we know about the killer app. Trust me. We know. And we're glad you know too. It'll happen. But it's phase 2. Right now we're working on the success of phase 1, and considering the significant interest we see out there, it's going in the right direction pretty quickly.

And there's really no need for us to build dialer applications because:
1- they'll never be integrated by phone manufacturers.
2- for manufacturers to support .tel in their own dialers is trivial, a simple matter of parsing the .tel and doing a DNS lookup. And sample code to do that is already available to them.

Hope this is clear.
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Why we need critical mass to convince mobile phone companies and cell phone manufacturers that name dialing is the biggest innovation for the future of telecommunication?
Shouldn't every global leader in this sector be happy to cooperate with Telnic? Probably those companies just haven't thought about it!
mikeseaton wrote:Justin Hayward

Getting a phone manufacturer to embed a domain dialler in their handset is a huge challenge. Have we been talking to companies about it? Sure. Do you know how many layers of people you have to go through, how quickly people join and leave these organisations and how many priorities they have?
How can it be achieved to talk to Tim Cook, Arthur Levinson or Jonathan Ive about name dialing? Wouldn't they see the potential of it?
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Re: How to push name dialing into the global market?

Post by mikeseaton on Wed 11 Jul 2012, 8:12 am

Apple and .TEL should be in bed together !

Why has there been no approach by Kash to Apple - or maybe there has been and it got nowhere ?

Add in SIRI and it's a match made in heaven - obviously Apple would need to be convinced that there was a major benefit to them.

Apple have been buying up companies for such huge sums recently that they could probably afford to purchase Telnic/Telnames from their Petty Cash !

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Re: How to push name dialing into the global market?

Post by Telomat on Mon 16 Jul 2012, 11:12 am

Justin Hayward wrote:Getting a phone manufacturer to embed a domain dialler in their handset is a huge challenge. Have we been talking to companies about it? Sure. Do you know how many layers of people you have to go through, how quickly people join and leave these organisations and how many priorities they have?
This should be the O N L Y challenge to make TEL famous! Probably this should be explained more obvious.



I haven’t seen much marketing in the past about the replacement of phone numbers by domain names. But every business, every phone company, every telephone user and even every child should understand the benefits of dialing a name which is easy to remember instead of a 12-digit phone number randomly composed. It’s hard to believe nobody else is thinking about this.
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Re: How to push name dialing into the global market?

Post by mikeseaton on Mon 16 Jul 2012, 2:09 pm

Telomat wrote:I haven’t seen much marketing in the past about the replacement of phone numbers by domain names. But every business, every phone company, every telephone user and even every child should understand the benefits of dialing a name which is easy to remember instead of a 12-digit phone number randomly composed. It’s hard to believe nobody else is thinking about this.
THEY ARE !

It's only a matter of time before another organisation offers a viable solution.

It doesn't necessarily have to be a technically pure solution like "Data in the DNS" - it just has to work, be reasonably priced, and actively marketed worldwide to "Joe Public".

There is a real danger this delay in commencing the worldwide marketing necessary to create .tel critical mass could hand "First Mover Advantage" to another organisation !

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Re: How to push name dialing into the global market?

Post by Tel on Mon 16 Jul 2012, 2:59 pm

mikeseaton wrote:It doesn't necessarily have to be a technically pure solution like "Data in the DNS" - it just has to work, be reasonably priced, and actively marketed worldwide to "Joe Public".

There is a real danger this delay in commencing the worldwide marketing necessary to create .tel critical mass could hand "First Mover Advantage" to another organisation !
Yes, the danger exists! But honestly would a solution without using the DNS make sense?
Certainly there are many ways, but it would make only sense to access websites and phone numbers the same way! Two different systems for the same operational tasks wouldn't be helpful.
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Re: How to push name dialing into the global market?

Post by mikeseaton on Mon 16 Jul 2012, 5:30 pm

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mikeseaton wrote:It doesn't necessarily have to be a technically pure solution like "Data in the DNS" - it just has to work, be reasonably priced, and actively marketed worldwide to "Joe Public".

There is a real danger this delay in commencing the worldwide marketing necessary to create .tel critical mass could hand "First Mover Advantage" to another organisation !
Yes, the danger exists! But honestly would a solution without using the DNS make sense?
To those who read this forum probably not, but "Joe Public" simply doesn't care about the technicalities, just that that the solution works for him at a price he is willing to pay.

And of course the assumption that ICANN will never permit other domain extensions to store data in the DNS in the way that .Tel does may not be a valid one !

So as I said before TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE re the long-awaited commencement of worldwide marketing for the .Tel extension.

The post at http://www.teltalk.org/t307-public-interest-registry-hits-10-million-org-domain-registrations#1209 shows the urgency of action being taken NOW !

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Re: How to push name dialing into the global market?

Post by Alex on Mon 16 Jul 2012, 6:21 pm

Mike, I agree!

Telnic should hire somebody who will create close relationships with the related industry!

Only waiting for critical mass doesn't bring the momentum Telnic is targeting for.

Mobile phone companies need to join the .tel project first to create this momentum!


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Re: How to push name dialing into the global market?

Post by mikeseaton on Sun 16 Dec 2012, 4:59 pm

Just given this thread a plug at http://twitter.com/mikeseaton - it's easy to forget why .tel was created in the first place !

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