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Afilias wants to buy failed gTLD

Post by silvano on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 3:03 am

Interesting article.

Afilias wants to buy your failed gTLD

http://domainincite.com/18898-afilias-wants-to-buy-your-failed-gtld
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Re: Afilias wants to buy failed gTLD

Post by Sunrise on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:05 am

Afilias is the most likely successor for .tel, too.
But due to the sluggish development at Telnic, it may take still many years until this will happen.
If Mister Cash had a little decency, he would look for a successor.
He himself has no active interest in the continuation of the management of .tel.
He's only enjoying his salary at Telnic. In return, he does absolutely nothing.
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Re: Afilias wants to buy failed gTLD

Post by x1y2 on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 7:27 am

Sunrise wrote:In return, he does absolutely nothing.

He is doing one thing: waiting for an investor to buy Telnic for big money.

Meanwhile the worth of Telnic is sinking more and more in the negative range!
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Re: Afilias wants to buy failed gTLD

Post by mikeseaton on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 8:10 am

silvano wrote:Interesting article.

Afilias wants to buy your failed gTLD

http://domainincite.com/18898-afilias-wants-to-buy-your-failed-gtld

Afilias would be an excellent choice to take over the .tel project !

Here's a post I made a little while ago:

mikeseaton wrote:I think there are a number of factors at play, any one of which (or more likely a combination) could mean that .tel and Telnic part company soon !

1. Telnic running out of money (there are substantial fixed overheads - regardless of domain registration count - in running a domain registry such as staff/office/server costs, ICANN annual fee, compulsory insurance annual fee, etc).

2. Telnic/Telnames running out of staff to deal with necessary maintenance issues e.g. if you want to sell or transfer a Telnames .tel domain you need Telnames involvement in the process, since they have set themselves up as the domain "Admin" contact. BTW this is not an issue with Telnic .tel domains.

3. Telnic's registars getting fed up being denied access to the latest version of .tel which Telnic sell direct to customers (bypassing Telnic's registrars) via their 100% owned subsidiary Telnames. 

4. The 10-year ICANN agreement expiring in 2016 - I doubt if Telnic have the cash to continue but even if they did the grounds for a well-documented objection would be substantial by then.

5. Companies House getting fed up with the cunning move Telnic keeps pulling (reduce ARD by 1 day just before the accounts are due to delay deadline date by a further 3 months).

6. An offer being made for the .tel registry by one of the New gTLD operators.

7. Kash & co. wanting to get on with the rest of their lives.

I'm not worried at all about .tel and Telnic parting company !

ICANN have access to a compulsory insurance policy which will pay for the .tel gTLD running costs whilst a new operator is found.

My guess is that if someone like Afilias takes over the extension will stay as it is i.e. "Data in the DNS".

Where it gets interesting is if a less technically-focussed company is the one with the cash and desire to take over - and faced with that or nothing at all - ICANN may well decide to let .tel be a "normal" extension.

IF - and I stress IF that happens - what price do you think 1-word generic .tels would fetch if they were fully open for development like .coms etc ?

TIME WILL .TEL - BUT IMO NOT LONG TO GO NOW !

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Re: Afilias wants to buy failed gTLD

Post by mikeseaton on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 8:36 am

Kash, the contact details for the Dublin headquarters of Afilias can be found at http://afilias.info/contact-us/offices

Please ring them NOW - or if you won't I'm sure one of the other interested parties in .tel will take the initiative !

TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE TO SAVE THE .TEL PROJECT !

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Re: Afilias wants to buy failed gTLD

Post by Sunrise on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 8:45 am

Mister Cash won't find this offer interesting:
“Frankly, we’re not going to be paying huge prices for them,” LaPlante.
http://domainincite.com/18898-afilias-wants-to-buy-your-failed-gtld

Hence we have to wait until Telnic has finally completely run out of money.
Then ICANN has to act instead of Telnic.
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Re: Afilias wants to buy failed gTLD

Post by mikeseaton on Thu 09 Jul 2015, 9:32 am

Sunrise wrote:Hence we have to wait until Telnic has finally completely run out of money.
Then ICANN has to act instead of Telnic.

I hope Kash won't wait until the coffers are completely empty - he is after all a 5.94% shareholder who presumably wants to see some worth to Telnic's shares when sold ?

Maybe it's now time for pro-active activity by all those forum members like myself who have put so much time and money into the .tel project over the last 6 years !

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Re: Afilias wants to buy failed gTLD

Post by Sunrise on Thu 09 Jul 2015, 9:40 am

mikeseaton wrote:I hope Kash won't wait until the coffers are completely empty ...

Waiting - that is exactly what he'll do!
Selling the company for the current market value of Telnic (close to zero) isn't the target.
The shareholders won't agree to get only a small amount for a sale of Telnic, because the only plan that has ever existed is making big money with as little investment as possible!
If you don't believe me, how else this can be explained: http://www.teltalk.org/t1733-telnic-pulls-a-cunning-move ?

BTW - has done Mister Cash anything else than waiting in recent years?
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Re: Afilias wants to buy failed gTLD

Post by mikeseaton on Thu 09 Jul 2015, 10:00 am

Sunrise wrote:
mikeseaton wrote:I hope Kash won't wait until the coffers are completely empty ...

Waiting - that is exactly what he'll do!
Selling the company for the current market value of Telnic (close to zero) isn't the target.
The shareholders won't agree to get only a small amount for a sale of Telnic, because the only plan that has ever existed is making big money with as little investment as possible!
If you don't believe me, how else this can be explained: http://www.teltalk.org/t1733-telnic-pulls-a-cunning-move

@Sunrise - I hope you're wrong - but you may be right !

If the sale of .tel - assuming a willing buyer - is left until the inevitable running out of money then my guess is that the shareholders will get NOTHING !

Most businessman faced with this scenario would rather fellow shareholders walked away with SOMETHING - plus of course there is a matter of pride that the .tel project will continue rather than perhaps disappear into oblivion !

As I said in a previous post TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE - if Kash can't/won't realise this then maybe forum members can help get some results ?

Let's start with a simple tweet - https://twitter.com/mikeseaton/with_replies

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Re: Afilias wants to buy failed gTLD

Post by 4444 on Thu 09 Jul 2015, 2:34 pm

Kash is and was wrong for many years. I doubt that we'll see a change of mind by him!

Actually, I have never seen a more stubborn businessman who follows consistently the wrong track for such a long time.
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Re: Afilias wants to buy failed gTLD

Post by mikeseaton on Fri 10 Jul 2015, 1:55 pm

mikeseaton wrote:
As I said in a previous post TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE - if Kash can't/won't realise this then maybe forum members can help get some results ?

Let's start with a simple tweet - https://twitter.com/mikeseaton/with_replies

I sent https://twitter.com/mikeseaton/status/619143229846482946 to Afilias CMO Roland LaPlante and his response was "great idea Mike--happy to talk!"

So Afilias - a major internet player with a track record in successful marketing and administration of multiple gTLDs would consider buying the .TEL project !

Does anybody know the Twitter ID for Kash ?

I would like to tweet him re this potential interest and give him the opportunity to react positively !

http://MikeSeaton.tel

PS. Afilias contact details are at Afilias.info and Afilias.tel


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Post by di7 on Fri 10 Jul 2015, 5:36 pm

mikeseaton wrote:Does anybody know the Twitter ID for Kash ?

https://twitter.com/telnicceo
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Post by mikeseaton on Fri 10 Jul 2015, 6:00 pm

di7 wrote:
mikeseaton wrote:Does anybody know the Twitter ID for Kash ?

https://twitter.com/telnicceo

@di7 - Thanks for the info - Have just tweeted Kash with https://twitter.com/mikeseaton/status/619626198285598720

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Post by di7 on Fri 10 Jul 2015, 6:01 pm

Good luck!
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Re: Afilias wants to buy failed gTLD

Post by 4444 on Fri 10 Jul 2015, 6:04 pm

If Afilias wants to buy failed gTLD, .tel is a failed gTLD indeed!
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Post by di7 on Fri 10 Jul 2015, 6:08 pm

4444 wrote:... .tel is a failed gTLD indeed!

Yes, but I expect that forum participants and .tel customers will support a new registry with all their power.
The current leaders, however, are hated for their really bad management during the latest years.
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Post by mikeseaton on Fri 10 Jul 2015, 6:30 pm

di7 wrote:
4444 wrote:... .tel is a failed gTLD indeed!

Yes, but I expect that forum participants and .tel customers will support a new registry with all their power.
The current leaders, however, are hated for their really bad management during the latest years.

ABSOLUTELY !

Afilias - with Corporate HQ in Dublin - see http://afilias.info/contact-us/offices - and a proven track record in marketing/managing gTLDs would be ideal !

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Post by mikeseaton on Thu 16 Jul 2015, 8:04 pm

mikeseaton wrote:
di7 wrote:
mikeseaton wrote:Does anybody know the Twitter ID for Kash ?

https://twitter.com/telnicceo

@di7 - Thanks for the info - Have just tweeted Kash with https://twitter.com/mikeseaton/status/619626198285598720

Just in case Kash in not checking Twitter regularly I have also sent https://twitter.com/mikeseaton/status/619632912787460096 to Telnic's ex-CTO and strategy/technical guy behind the .tel project Henri Asseily

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Re: Afilias wants to buy failed gTLD

Post by Sunrise on Fri 17 Jul 2015, 9:37 am

Will Mister Cash sell Telnic for a small sales price?
I doubt it, because a big amount has been lost by Tenic's shareholders in recent years.
Hence, he won't sell Telnic for peanuts.
I guess, he'll rather wait until Telnic is completely bankrupt (without getting any money).
At least, this was the strategy during the latest years.
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Post by x1y2 on Fri 17 Jul 2015, 2:13 pm

We all know that Telnic can't continue the business forever, but no one knows what will happen and how long it takes to see a change.
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Post by TelBlogger on Sat 18 Jul 2015, 1:55 am

The important thing is to not waste time developing (lol!) ur .tels or money by renewing the registrations.
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Re: Afilias wants to buy failed gTLD

Post by Sunrise on Mon 03 Aug 2015, 5:04 pm

This is a deal Mister Cash is dreaming of.

Such sale was and is the only target of Telnic.
Developing .tel was never the plan!
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Post by Serg on Mon 03 Aug 2015, 8:27 pm

Sunrise wrote:This is a deal Mister Cash is dreaming of.

Such sale was and is the only target of Telnic.
Developing .tel was never the plan!
It's no wonder 90% of start-ups dream to sell as quickly as possible, and more. Life dictates of their own. In Telnik management no human-engine and no money.
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Post by di7 on Tue 04 Aug 2015, 3:05 am

The value of Telnic could have been increased a lot by developing .tel into a widely accepted service.

But now, Telnic's value is minus (many costs, little revenues, angry customers and a dead product).
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Post by Serg on Tue 04 Aug 2015, 7:21 am

di7 wrote:The value of Telnic could have been increased a lot by developing .tel into a widely accepted service.

But now, Telnic's value is minus (many costs, little revenues, angry customers and a dead product).
Each coin has a flip side.
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