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How many .tel domains will be registered in 1 year from now?

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How many .tel domains will be registered in 1 year from now?

Post by Sunrise on Sat 04 Feb 2017, 12:24 pm

On 13th March 2017, .tel won't have any restrictions anymore.
What do you expect will happen to the registration numbers?
At the moment, .tel has about 100,000 registered domains.

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Re: How many .tel domains will be registered in 1 year from now?

Post by maxi on Sat 04 Feb 2017, 12:43 pm

Sunrise wrote:On 13th March 2017, .tel won't have any restrictions anymore.
And won't have any trumps too. ; )
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Re: How many .tel domains will be registered in 1 year from now?

Post by Sunrise on Sat 04 Feb 2017, 1:20 pm

maxi wrote:And won't have any trumps too. ; )

What a luck that .tel won't have any Donald Trump!
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Re: How many .tel domains will be registered in 1 year from now?

Post by x1y2 on Sat 04 Feb 2017, 1:23 pm

Sunrise wrote:What a luck that .tel won't have any Donald Trump!

But .tel has Khashayar Mahdavi. He has a similar popularity like Donald Trump.
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Re: How many .tel domains will be registered in 1 year from now?

Post by Moonlight on Sat 04 Feb 2017, 1:30 pm

maxi wrote:And won't have any trumps too. ; )

I see it differently:

  • Until now, .tel is the only domain extension that can store data in the DNS.
  • The service with focus on communication data could be developed massively (which hasn't happened yet).
  • .tel has a generic name that fits perfectly for telecommunication services.
  • .tel provides a very nice template to all customers by default (starting next month).
  • The registration / renewal fees for .tel are much cheaper than the average price of nTLDs.
  • .tel premium domains are cheap in comparison to premium domains from other extensions.
  • Next month, customers will be able to decide easily how they won't to use .tel (hosting or using the Telnames template).
  • .tel had a high interest in China in the past and could have it again.
  • Next month, .tel will lose all disadvantages from the past.
  • Due to the uniqueness of .tel in terms of technology, .tel will be observed by the industry for future potential.
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Re: How many .tel domains will be registered in 1 year from now?

Post by Sunrise on Sat 04 Feb 2017, 1:48 pm

@Moonlight

Very interesting point of view.

I could see it the other way around:

  • Mister Cash has always done everything to avoid any success of .tel. He will continue doing so.
  • The DNS concept will be put into the trash bin next month.
  • .tel will provide the same service like any other TLD next month.
  • The term '.tel' is not a popular name like .com, .online or .shop.
  • Telnic customers will get a template that failed at Telnames in the past (with only about 10,000 registrations).
  • The bad history of .tel is well-known.

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Re: How many .tel domains will be registered in 1 year from now?

Post by x1y2 on Sat 04 Feb 2017, 2:05 pm

Sunrise wrote:The bad history of .tel is well-known.

Not so much; .tel isn't known much at all.

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Re: How many .tel domains will be registered in 1 year from now?

Post by maxi on Sat 04 Feb 2017, 2:26 pm

Sunrise wrote:Mister Cash has always done everything to avoid any success of .tel. He will continue doing so.

Sunrise, yes, I also think that this is the main reason why TEL fails.

The question is, do he does this intentionally or not?


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Re: How many .tel domains will be registered in 1 year from now?

Post by mikeseaton on Sat 04 Feb 2017, 2:27 pm

Moonlight wrote:
maxi wrote:And won't have any trumps too. ; )

I see it differently:

  • Until now, .tel is the only domain extension that can store data in the DNS.
  • The service with focus on communication data could be developed massively (which hasn't happened yet).
  • .tel has a generic name that fits perfectly for telecommunication services.
  • .tel provides a very nice template to all customers by default (starting next month).
  • The registration / renewal fees for .tel are much cheaper than the average price of nTLDs.
  • .tel premium domains are cheap in comparison to premium domains from other extensions.
  • Next month, customers will be able to decide easily how they want to use .tel (hosting or using the Telnames template).
  • .tel had a high interest in China in the past and could have it again.
  • Next month, .tel will lose all disadvantages from the past.
  • Due to the uniqueness of .tel in terms of technology, .tel will be observed by the industry for future potential.


Interesting points made by @Moonlight - I have bolded the ones I think are particularly important to the future of .TEL - of course Telnic/Telnames will have to get their marketing act together over the changes starting on 13 March 2017 !

I notice a topical purchase by Mark Kolb recently - POTUS.tel - "President(s) of the United States" - using the plural version "Presidents" rather than the singular version "President" should keep Mark free from any cybersquatting claim !

The registrant of DonaldTrump.tel however (Danny Carrier - see http://www.whois.com/whois/donaldtrump.tel) is leaving himself open to a "hand it over" claim by "The Donald" should .TEL become popular after 13 March 2017.

Now that would be good publicity for the .TEL gTLD !

http://MikeSeaton.tel

Ref: http://www.tel.community/t4467-important-news-for-all-tel-owners-and-community-members#15945


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Re: How many .tel domains will be registered in 1 year from now?

Post by Sunrise on Sat 04 Feb 2017, 3:12 pm

maxi wrote:
Sunrise wrote:Mister Cash has always done everything to avoid any success of .tel. He will continue doing so.

Sunrise, yes, I also think that this is the main reason why TEL fails.

The question is, do he does this intentionally or not?

Either he's totally lazy or he's following a secret strategy (e.g. to buy the .tel registry after it has failed).
But it's impossible to know.

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Re: How many .tel domains will be registered in 1 year from now?

Post by maxi on Sat 04 Feb 2017, 4:08 pm

Sunrise wrote:Either he's totally lazy or he's following a secret strategy (e.g. to buy the .tel registry after it has failed).
But it's impossible to know.
The variant that he is lazy I do not scrutinize now, but for a "secret strategy" I have two options found in fine fiction. Is it possible that something like that happens?

Option 1:
Wiki wrote:Springtime for Hitler

Plot

In the film, the play is chosen by the producer and his accountant in their fraudulent scheme to raise substantial funding by selling 25,000% of a play, then causing it to fail, and finally keeping all of the remaining money for themselves. To ensure that the play is a total failure, producer selects an incredibly tasteless script, hires the worst director he can find ...

Option 2:
Wiki wrote:The Hudsucker Proxy

Plot

... a naïve business-school graduate who is installed as president of a manufacturing company, and a company director who hires the young man as part of a stock scam.

... a ruthless member of the board of directors, learns Hudsucker's (who died) stock shares will be soon sold to the public; he mounts a scheme to buy the controlling interest in the company by temporarily depressing the stock price by hiring an incompetent president to replace Hudsucker.

... The other executives decide to produce invention in hopes that it will flop and depress the company's stock.

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Re: How many .tel domains will be registered in 1 year from now?

Post by maxi on Sun 05 Feb 2017, 7:46 am

Moonlight wrote:The registration / renewal fees for .tel are much cheaper than the average price of nTLDs.

I was silent about possible rise of TEL prices because I had a slight hope that Mr.Cash will forget for some time about that way to ruin TEL further and will not apply it in the nearest future. But now the word already was said. : )

And I already see how in the coming December we will receive the next newsletter from Telnic:

one of the future newsletters from Telnic wrote:The decision to rise registration and renewal fees up to $24 was based on customer feedback and usage statistics.
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Re: How many .tel domains will be registered in 1 year from now?

Post by FrankW. on Sun 05 Feb 2017, 9:38 am

maxi wrote:The decision to rise registration and renewal fees up to $24 was based on customer feedback and usage statistics.

Every price increase by a domain registry has do be approved by ICANN first.

ICANN won't allow such a drastic jump in pricing.

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Re: How many .tel domains will be registered in 1 year from now?

Post by maxi on Sun 05 Feb 2017, 10:48 am

I remember that Telnames once were selling TELs at $20 or so: Telnames price hike from £14.95 to £24.95

FrankW. wrote:ICANN won't allow such a drastic jump in pricing.
It would be nice.
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Re: How many .tel domains will be registered in 1 year from now?

Post by Malaga on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 11:06 am

The Tel template, while being ‘cute’ would not attract and keep more than a couple of thousand users. The last few years have shown that people are just not impressed, even if they get free Tel sites from Directory companies. There are numerous mobile-site builders offering feature-rich, powerful, multi-page (or unlimited pages) mobile sites at a very cheap price. Most small businesses are quite satisfied with their Facebook account which allows them to showcase their service, get social with their users, promote specific posts (boost), and get deep business intelligence. I have tried selling Telnames sites to small business people and invariably they look at it with a shrug. Even when they register they do not keep it after the first year. The TEL template is good only as an option.
The only way for TEL to survive would be to offer cheap (domain only) registrations.
However to kick-start TEL again, they would need to come very cheap, and like other registrars offering other TLD’s, go as low as $3 or $4 for new registrations and for renewals, or even cheaper.
In addition to this they absolutely have to invest in promotion. They should understand, you advertise or you die. In today’s tech world, you stand up and make noise or you crawl into a hole and disappear.
The development of ‘communication’ websites (as against current informational-sites) would be something they could encourage. Comm sites could be the next big wave in the industry. A comm site is a company site dedicated to making B2C, C2B, B2B, Inter-B, Emp 2 Emp, etc. communications easy and slick.
One suggestion to Telnic is to offer cash prizes for “best company communication portal’ site. TEL is an ideal fit for branding comm. sites.
No amount of talk or wishful thinking would help TEL. Only the building of real niche websites and promotion will work.
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Post by Boracay on Tue 07 Feb 2017, 3:28 am

For tel or telephone numbers compare against this idea for photos.

Anything to do with photos, you simply register a regular domain to get the google search target, then point at a free instagram account. updating content to an instagram website is so easy. You just use the instagram app.

That is what needs to happen.
For telecommunications data. Register a .tel
Then use a .tel specific app. 
Telnic did not implement simply enough the my.tel app.
They left it UNFINISHED AND THAT WAS A DISASTER.

But this discussion is pointless until somebody else is running things. All suggestions are taken to a secret room where there is almost no returned feedback for years. This is a 1-way street unfortunately 

Time gone. 
Customer Enthusiasm crushed/gone.


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Re: How many .tel domains will be registered in 1 year from now?

Post by maxi on Tue 07 Feb 2017, 4:28 am

Malaga wrote:No amount of talk or wishful thinking would help TEL. Only the building of real niche websites and promotion will work.
Many people already had build good websites and projects on TEL. Now, after March 13th, due to Telnic's removal of subdomains for TEL, all this their work and projects will go to the trash box.

I think, that some of they are going not to surrender and again will try to build websites and projects using TEL - this time as an ordinary website on ordinary hosting. But who will garantee, that one-two or three years later Telnic will not again announce, for example, that regular websites are forbidden again and customers need to use one-page Telnames template? Or will do something in that kind?

For investing your work, money or time into developing something on company's product, you first need to have trust this company. I personally have no trust nor to Telnic, nor to Mr. Cash.
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Post by TelBlogger on Tue 07 Feb 2017, 4:53 am

I agree. Telnic and its dou*hbag Kash Maldavi cannot be trusted.

They are just mindless monkeys with no moral compasses.

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