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Where are we heading?

Post by FrankW. on Mon 08 Oct 2012, 3:56 pm

It's obvious some things have gone wrong in the past (disproportionate expectations, unfortunate communications, lack of development), but what can be expected from dottel?
I see DNS storage, easy manageable websites, easy accessibility of contact information and integration of domain management plus website administration.
Shouldn't have this great potential?
Not much advertisement has happened from Telnic before and Telnames seem to continue this way, but is it possible more customers will discover the advantages of this TLD?
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Re: Where are we heading?

Post by mikeseaton on Mon 08 Oct 2012, 5:16 pm

Welcome to the forum Frank.

I think you probably need to use the TelTalk Search facility to get an answer to your question "Where are we heading?" - there's so much been written about the current .tel situation recently it should keep you busy for hours, if not days !

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Re: Where are we heading?

Post by silvano on Mon 08 Oct 2012, 5:23 pm

Excellent and clear review of a good "product" that I like and use.

FrankW. wrote:Shouldn't have this great potential?

No. I think it's a niche product and will remain a niche product.

FrankW. wrote:Not much advertisement has happened from Telnic before and Telnames seem to continue this way, but is it possible more customers will discover the advantages of this TLD?

Advertising on the internet is useless, a waste of money. If a product is valid will be successful anyway by word-of-mouth advertising.

Geocities, Xoom, Yahoo, Google, eBay, MySpace, Facebook ... they never advertised. Their success came from their value.

If there are 140 million domains .com registered and 260.000 .tel there will be a reason...
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Re: Where are we heading?

Post by mikeseaton on Mon 08 Oct 2012, 5:28 pm

silvano wrote:If there are 140 million domains .com registered and 260.000 .tel there will be a reason...
The post http://www.teltalk.org/t566-tel-total-registrations-for-1-october-2012 gives links to the total .tel registration figures.

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Re: Where are we heading?

Post by Telnamer on Tue 09 Oct 2012, 10:59 am

silvano wrote:No. I think it's a niche product and will remain a niche product.
If it's only a niche product, it would be completely useless.
Only after a lot of people using it, it will have value.
silvano wrote:Geocities, Xoom, Yahoo, Google, eBay, MySpace, Facebook ... they never advertised. Their success came from their value.
I expect the same for Telnames.
There are millions of SMB without website.
Only a few of them need to find the advantages and many will follow.
silvano wrote:If there are 140 million domains .com registered and 260.000 .tel there will be a reason...
Telnames exists only for half a year.
Most people know only Telnic and that product is useless until today.
Therefore the growth will only start now.
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Post by silvano on Tue 09 Oct 2012, 5:01 pm

Telnamer wrote:Telnames exists only for half a year.
Most people know only Telnic and that product is useless until today.
Therefore the growth will only start now.

I would to wish good luck to Telnic and to Telnames, but I think the train to success for .tel has already passed and has been lost.


Flavors .me (born in 2010) should have 750,000 users (and 52,000 paying 20$/year)
(http://thenextweb.com/apps/2011/11/29/the-all-new-flavors-me-a-social-network-to-unite-all-social-networks/)

Moo, London-based print company, bought Flavors.me for integrating Flavors.me, with more than 100 people working at the firm now
(http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/09/20/moo-purchase-flavors-me-explore-future-business-cards-websites/)


About.me, according to Techcrunch, it had 400,000 people sign up during the beta period.

On December 20, 2010, just four days after its public launch, about.me was acquired by AOL for $1.3 million.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/About.me)


These are success' numbers.


Telnames:
01/10/2012 6 signing
02/10/2012 35 signing
03/10/2012 36 signing
04/10/2012 24 signing
05/10/2012 40 signing
06/10/2012 32 signing
07/10/2012 7 signing
08/10/2012 5 signing
09/10/2012 21 signing
2,100 total .tel registered.
(http://dottel.net/)


.tel "The domain's purpose is to provide a single name space for Internet
communications services. Subdomain registrations serve as a single point
of contact for individuals and businesses, providing a global contact
directory service by hosting all types of contact information directly
in the Domain Name System, without the need to build, host or manage a
traditional web service.
"
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.tel)

Evidently people wants more; and backgrounds, small pictures, movies, coupons offered by Telnames aren't enough. People wants full sites.
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Re: Where are we heading?

Post by mikeseaton on Tue 09 Oct 2012, 5:10 pm

Interesting statistics re Flavors/Moo/About - as you say these are real success numbers !

I've been stating for what seems like forever that Telnic/Telnames has to market .tel aggressively worldwide to stand any chance of reaching the essential "critical mass".

But it all seems to fall on deaf ears as it simply hasn't happened so far - even the Telnames Affiliate program is only UK for the moment - and nothing much seems to be happening with that anyway - see http://www.teltalk.org/t482p24-make-money-with-the-telnames-affiliate-programme#2831

Maybe time has finally run out for .tel - and Telnames, good as it is, is simply
Too Little Too Late ?

Who knows ?

More importantly, Who cares (outside of Telnic/TelTalk forums) ?

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Re: Where are we heading?

Post by silvano on Tue 09 Oct 2012, 5:54 pm

< laugh > We survive if our woman leaves us, we can survive without a .tel of success! < /laugh >
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Re: Where are we heading?

Post by Freedom for .tel on Wed 10 Oct 2012, 3:14 am

silvano wrote:People wants full sites.
No problem to make
it a reality for .tel, too.

It require some work
and .tel can be a
success.

I really wonder what
people at Telnic are
thinking how they can
make business like
they do.
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Re: Where are we heading?

Post by Freedom for .tel on Wed 10 Oct 2012, 3:16 am

mikeseaton wrote:More importantly, Who cares (outside of Telnic/TelTalk forums) ?
From my judgement people
INSIDE Telnic don't care.

Telnic, please convince me
otherwise!
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Re: Where are we heading?

Post by Expert on Wed 10 Oct 2012, 7:13 am

silvano wrote:On December 20, 2010, just four days after its public launch, about.me was acquired by AOL for $1.3 million.
After Telnic collected $35m even before launch we are talking about bigger numbers here.

Many internet start-ups have failed.
Especially in comparison to the successful internet start-ups failure is the norm, because only very few succeed.
As example you can check the list of social networks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_networking_websites
What is their value as long everybody is only using Facebook?

What counts for the end user is to have his own domain.
Telnic has one big advantage, because we (will) have thousands of TLD, but they all work the same.
But we have only one TLD that is using the DNS.
From any DNS development in the future Telnic will profit, doesn't matter if Telnic had a bad strategical planning or not!
So my expectation is .tel can only improve, especially if bad decisions from the past hopefully won't be repeated.
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Re: Where are we heading?

Post by silvano on Wed 10 Oct 2012, 8:12 am

Expert wrote:So my expectation is .tel can only improve, especially if bad decisions from the past hopefully won't be repeated.

So I hope.

I am continuing to update my .tel domains.
I have 7 and I think I will only drops two at termination.

But we must also do our part.

As demonstrated by Telnames, .tels need more users who fill their sites with content and less "investors" who fill Internet with empty "boxes" with written "domain for sale".

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