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It can get only better

Post by Teler on Sun 04 Nov 2012, 10:36 am

The latest topics are
mikeseaton wrote:$35,000,000 Down The Drain ?
directtel wrote:Will Telnic lose the license?
Telminator wrote:Is Telnames allowed to sell domains?
Freedom for .tel wrote:ICANN complaint against Telnames
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Re: It can get only better

Post by mikeseaton on Sun 04 Nov 2012, 12:10 pm

It can get only better
Let's hope so !

If you believe this is this case you should be buying up .tels now whilst they are cheap !

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Re: It can get only better

Post by Rambo on Sun 04 Nov 2012, 6:55 pm

mikeseaton wrote:
It can get only better
Let's hope so !
Yes, I can't imagine it can become worse! So only great times can come!

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Post by maxi on Mon 05 Nov 2012, 8:14 am

Rambo wrote:Yes, I can't imagine it can become worse!
"It never is so bad that it could not become much worser" - one folk saying states something like that.

By the way, "TEL of the Week" at Telnic's site is not renewed already for a month: http://telnic.org/community-weeklytel.html


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Post by Sunrise on Mon 05 Nov 2012, 10:40 am

maxi wrote:By the way, "TEL of the Week" at Telnic's site is not renewed already for a month: http://telnic.org/community-weeklytel.html
After Telnic.org haven't been updated since spring 2011, it has been a surprise the .tel of the week survived until fall 2012.
It was only consequent to cancel this very last survivor of Telnic's communication to the public.
From now on current information won't be found at Telnic.org anymore.
The service is dying more and more.
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Post by mikeseaton on Mon 05 Nov 2012, 11:18 am

Sunrise wrote:After Telnic.org haven't been updated since spring 2011, it has been a surprise the .tel of the week survived until fall 2012.
It was only consequent to cancel this very last survivor of Telnic's communication to the public.
From now on current information won't be found at Telnic.org anymore.
The service is dying more and more.
When I used to post on the Telnic Forum (before being permanently banned) I politely pointed out to Telnic that their home page at http://Telnic.org referred to a FUTURE event that was going to happen on 1st JUNE 2011 (see "New Launch" on bottom left).

Mark and a few others did the same.

It seemed absurd that a company that was selling a product like .tel, which is all about bang up-to-date information, should have such an old announcement on its front page !

The result - No Response to the posts - No Change to the page !

Do Telnic not have any idea how this makes their operation look ?

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Post by TelFan on Mon 05 Nov 2012, 7:47 pm

mikeseaton wrote:The result - No Response to the posts - No Change to the page !

Do Telnic not have any idea how this makes their operation look ?
As you said already only Telnames will be promoted and Telnic don't get any further attention from their management in the future.
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Post by TelFan on Wed 07 Nov 2012, 12:49 am

Have you ever heard about a company like Telnic that ignores all advices so consequently?
At least we have to pay our respect to Telnic for not being influenced by anybody from the outside (including customers, partners and consultants).
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Post by TelKing on Wed 07 Nov 2012, 6:53 am

The thing with .tel is that this DNS invention is a bet on the future.
Telnames may be nice, but the revolutionary service we haven't seen from .tel yet.
You can buy your .tel today and hope it will be implemented in new services later on.
But at the moment you are better off with an even cheaper .com or co.uk.
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Post by mikeseaton on Wed 07 Nov 2012, 7:12 am

TelKing wrote:The thing with .tel is that this DNS invention is a bet on the future.
Yes very true - but that future (Phase 2, explained at http://www.teltalk.org/t240p50-new-templates-are-available#995 ) won't happen without the essential "critical mass" being achieved so that Telcos consider it worthwhile to modify their systems to perform DNS lookups.

But CRITICAL MASS WILL NOT HAPPEN with the current lack of Worldwide Marketing which is leading to month-on-month declines in Total Registrations !

Not sure why Telnic/Telnames don't "get it" - just about everyone else does !

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Post by kprobe on Wed 07 Nov 2012, 8:42 am

I know many of you have lost hope, but so did many in the US election and it's a positive spirit again with Obama reelected, at least in half of the USA and certainly in most of the world.

So good things will return too to the pro .Tel world and soon. Have patience. Stop being negative. Build out your domains. Do something positive. Put your energy into selling into your domains and building local awareness.

Lead with examples like the difference Dan has made with www.Barack.tel. It's time to show this forum and readers what .Tel can do instead of what it can't do. We have sufficient tools for the time being. Use them. More will come but no need to wait.


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Post by maxi on Wed 07 Nov 2012, 9:43 am

kprobe wrote:Build out your domains.
What is the sense to invest time and money in something that tomorrow may be will not exist, like TELs with subdomains, for example?


kprobe wrote:Do something positive.
As for me, I build step by step my .COMs, which you can see in my signature bellow - and I know that it is a better investment because of many things, and one of them is that I know for sure that nobody will say me tomorrow, that from today only one-page-com is available.


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Post by Alex on Wed 07 Nov 2012, 2:18 pm

kprobe wrote:I know many of you have lost hope, but so did many in the US election and it's a positive spirit again with Obama reelected, at least in half of the USA and certainly in most of the world.

So good things will return too to the pro .Tel world and soon. Have patience. Stop being negative. Build out your domains. Do something positive. Put your energy into selling into your domains and building local awareness.

Lead with examples like the difference Dan has made with www.Barack.tel. It's time to show this forum and readers what .Tel can do instead of what it can't do. We have sufficient tools for the time being. Use them. More will come but no need to wait.
This is the right attitude!

Even .tel is not successful yet, I won't lose hope it will be a success later on.

Do you know any other successful DNS provider yet?

I guess everybody would agree Barack.tel has become a very professional role model for .tel domains.

Surely Micha Benoliel from Digitrad lost patience too early when dropping this (and many more) landrush domain(s) this year.

Unfortunately the three new templates have been released after the landrush domains dropped already.

Nobody can blame him and many other .tel investors who have dropped their .tel domains, because many more registrations have been expected in 2009.

But everybody makes his own decisions; my personal decision is not to give up on a product with a revolutionary concept only because in early years it has reached less people than calculated before.

And I'm 100 % sure I'm not alone with this opinion, because many, many customers and .tel investors hold on.

Nobody should lose patience only because a product hasn't taken off in the early stage!

Products and perspectives are always evolving with the time and very often years are needed to reach success!


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Post by TelGirl on Wed 07 Nov 2012, 3:04 pm

kprobe wrote:So good things will return too to the pro .Tel world and soon. Have patience.
Mark is the only person outside Telnic with real information about activities regarding .tel. Hence his comment is important and promising at the same time!
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Post by Sunrise on Wed 07 Nov 2012, 3:23 pm

TelGirl wrote:
kprobe wrote:So good things will return too to the pro .Tel world and soon. Have patience.
Mark is the only person outside Telnic with real information about activities regarding .tel. Hence his comment is important and promising at the same time!
Wallpapers ????
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Post by Toptel on Wed 07 Nov 2012, 3:42 pm

Sunrise wrote:
TelGirl wrote:
kprobe wrote:So good things will return too to the pro .Tel world and soon. Have patience.
Mark is the only person outside Telnic with real information about activities regarding .tel. Hence his comment is important and promising at the same time!
Wallpapers ????
The template from Telnames and subdomains in one product? Will we see the light?
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Post by Expert on Wed 07 Nov 2012, 11:48 pm

Toptel wrote:
Sunrise wrote:Wallpapers ????
The template from Telnames and subdomains in one product? Will we see the light?
And don't forget the administration of pictures, ads and vids through the Telnic control panel which has been announced long time ago!
Without that .tel is not usable!
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Post by Sunrise on Thu 08 Nov 2012, 1:10 am

Rambo wrote:Enough work until end of 2012!
2012? Telnic would have to increase their effort dramatically!
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Post by Rambo on Thu 08 Nov 2012, 1:18 am

Sunrise wrote:2012? Telnic would have to increase their effort dramatically!
Yes, why not? The effort needs to be increased anyway if .tel wants to go mainstream!

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Post by maxi on Thu 08 Nov 2012, 8:40 am

TelTalk wrote:Surely Micha Benoliel from Digitrad lost patience too early when dropping this (and many more) landrush domain(s) this year.
By the way, before drops of Landrush domains I wrote to him that if he send me a list of domains he is going to drop, may be I will buy one or two of them for $50-100 each. He did not replied to my email and preferred to drop them for free. :D)


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Post by Expert on Thu 08 Nov 2012, 8:58 am

maxi wrote:
TelTalk wrote:Surely Micha Benoliel from Digitrad lost patience too early when dropping this (and many more) landrush domain(s) this year.
By the way, before drops of Landrush domains I wrote to him that if he send me a list of domains he is going to drop, may be I will buy one or two of them for $50-100 each. He did not replied to my email and preferred to drop them for free. :D)


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And probably all his domains have been snapped.
But for a serious businessman $50 - 100 is nothing.
This amount is not worth thinking about such offer, especially when a value of at least1,000 times higher per domain was expected.

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Post by maxi on Thu 08 Nov 2012, 10:52 am

Expert wrote:And probably all his domains have been snapped.
Yes, they all have been snapped.


But it is interesting from psychological point of view, when from one side a businessman is too busy or too proud to get $50-100 for a domain he is going to drop, and at the same time he is not willing to spend his $100 for renewing his 10 domains (for each of them three years ago he paid at least $300) and to wait next few yeas for the chance to get, may be, from some 50 to 100 times more for them - if the extension will become successful one day.




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Post by Expert on Thu 08 Nov 2012, 11:32 pm

After landrush domains have been registered for about $300, it is a small amount to get only $50 for it.
The business itself certainly was booked as complete loss already.
But you are right, too.
Instead of dropping hundreds of first-class domain names, he could have sold them for $50 - 100 without any hassles finding a buyer.
At least he would have gotten a five-figure sum for all his domains together.
That is much more than the renewal fees.
And it is not understandable to spend $300 for a .tel domain in 2009 and not willing to pay $10 for the renewal in 2012.
He must have changed his mind and seems to be sure .tel won't be successful.
But how anybody can know that with certainty?
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Post by Telminator on Thu 08 Nov 2012, 11:48 pm

Expert wrote:Instead of dropping hundreds of first-class domain names, he could have sold them for $50 - 100 without any hassles finding a buyer.
That is true!
People are always willing to pay the same amount for back ordering the landrush domains.
So it shouldn't be a problem to find a buyer for them.

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