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Telnames is very self-confident

Post by Sunrise on Fri 23 Nov 2012, 1:24 pm

Ian Bowen-Morris:
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http://twitter.com/IanBM/status/271348660124647424
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Re: Telnames is very self-confident

Post by Rambo on Fri 23 Nov 2012, 1:35 pm

Sunrise wrote:Telnames is very self-confident
That explains why they don't need the customers from Telnic anymore.
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Re: Telnames is very self-confident

Post by mikeseaton on Fri 23 Nov 2012, 1:56 pm

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Sunrise wrote:Telnames is very self-confident
That explains why they don't need the customers from Telnic anymore.
Could be - but I would have thought that NN,000 Telnic .tels transferred over to Telnames (at a price the Telnic registrants couldn't refuse) would still provide a useful boost to Telnames credibility !

Not sure the existing Telnic registrars would be too happy with this though ?

But if Telnames is always going to be "direct-sell", bypassing registrars, then this may not be too much of a consideration !

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Re: Telnames is very self-confident

Post by fustachio.tel on Fri 23 Nov 2012, 6:51 pm

Sunrise wrote:Ian Bowen-Morris:
UK's fastest growing mobile website brand
http://twitter.com/IanBM/status/271348660124647424


I thought that was a telnames site then, even though I knew I was clicking a twitter link... guess that background has absorbed into my mind so much that the white vs it makes me think telnames and not twitter.
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Re: Telnames is very self-confident

Post by Rambo on Sat 24 Nov 2012, 12:15 am

fustachio.tel wrote:I thought that was a telnames site then, even though I knew I was clicking a twitter link... guess that background has absorbed into my mind so much that the white vs it makes me think telnames and not twitter.
Impressive: Telnames looks just like Twitter!
Anyway there is one big difference in the size of £14.95.
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Re: Telnames is very self-confident

Post by Boracay on Tue 27 Nov 2012, 3:08 am

The price is a trial in the market. The promo codes will continue forever is my guess. ...And whining re not moving your domains/ populating is poor excuse six months later. Help the cause and fill your .tels because telnames is kicking goals, the app was needed first etc. and whoever is writing the blog is making sense time after time.

The pro .tel is the directory version of tel (and will have it's time again sooner or later)
Get behind telnames for now..
Why not?
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Re: Telnames is very self-confident

Post by Sunrise on Tue 27 Nov 2012, 3:43 am

Boracay wrote:Get behind telnames for now..
Why not?
For small businesses who just want to be found on the internet Telnames is a nice and small solution.
But developers, domain investors, website builders and creative designers can't do anything with it.
Hence Telnames can help penetrating new markets, but nobody needs more than one Telname.
If I think about investing money into .tel or like to monetize them, unfortunately Telnames is useless for three reasons:
1.) Telnames offers only onepager.
2.) It's not possible to integrate much content (no long text and no widgets).
3.) It's not possible to integrate tools for monetization.
But unfortunately that is the way how the domain industry usually works.
Other domain extension have only high registration numbers, because domain investors like to use them for generating revenues by placing ads.
Telnames has a different approach and excludes these customers.
That is not only bad, because probably you will find mostly real SMBs on .tels from Telnames, while you will find a lot of useless parking pages from other domain extensions.
The advantage is that Telnames generates useful, but little content (with focus on contact data).
The disadvantage is that Telnames limits the customer circle to end users (which are usually not more than approximately 5 % of registrants at other domain extensions) what will keep registration numbers low as long .tel is not well-known.
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Re: Telnames is very self-confident

Post by Spocky on Tue 27 Nov 2012, 6:51 am

Sunrise wrote:The disadvantage is that Telnames limits the customer circle to end users (which are usually not more than approximately 5 % of registrants at other domain extensions) what will keep registration numbers low as long .tel is not well-known.
I've never thought about it that way! This is a very big advantage: TEL WILL BE THE FIRST DOMAIN EXTENSION FOR END CUSTOMERS WITHOUT THE EXISTENCE OF ANY PARKING PAGES! If you open a tel, you will find useful information instead of advertising! WHAT A GREAT CONCEPT!
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Re: Telnames is very self-confident

Post by Boracay on Tue 27 Nov 2012, 8:27 am

Sunrise wrote:
Boracay wrote:Get behind telnames for now..
Why not?

But developers, domain investors, website builders and creative designers can't do anything with it.
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The backend technology of pro .tel is fantastic. It's just appears to be a change of gameplan or perhaps on hold for now. Developers hopefully will get to continue with pro.tel once mainstream telnames .tel has shown the way.
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Re: Telnames is very self-confident

Post by Natal on Tue 27 Nov 2012, 12:27 pm

Boracay wrote:
Sunrise wrote:
Boracay wrote:Get behind telnames for now..
Why not?

But developers, domain investors, website builders and creative designers can't do anything with it.
.

The backend technology of pro .tel is fantastic. It's just appears to be a change of gameplan or perhaps on hold for now. Developers hopefully will get to continue with pro.tel once mainstream telnames .tel has shown the way.
That's the reason why Telnic has come up with Telnames.
When .tel came out a few years ago, Telnic tried everything to sell .tels to domain investors.
Very soon Telnic found out domain investors are very difficult and demanding customers. In the beginning Telnic tried to please them as example by integrating Google ads, but domain investors have continued to complain; and it was even more difficult to convince more of them to buy .tels.
That, my friends, is the reason why Telnic doesn't support you at the moment.

Telnic started a complete new concept with Telnames which was not supposed for domain investors (no ads, no sub domains), but with the essential meaning for communication: connecting people quickly!
And Telnic is doing it right.
With Telnames they gain a lot of satisfied customers who appreciate this meaningful product. Only during the last months more .tel owners are using their .tel actively at Telnames than all the .tels from Telnic together, because the customers at Telnames are really using their domains.
Instead domain investors are only waiting for a good time to sell their .tels later - mostly without spending any effort such as developing their .tels.

.tel is reaching small businesses with Telnames now and these are the customers that are useful for showing the benefit of .tel.
Do you understand now why Telnic is only busy with Telnames and has currently no motivation to spend a lot of energy for Telnic's customers?

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Re: Telnames is very self-confident

Post by maxi on Tue 27 Nov 2012, 1:57 pm

Natal wrote:Do you understand now why Telnic is only busy with Telnames and has currently no motivation to spend a lot of energy for Telnic's customers?
Thanks for explanation. Yes, now I understand why it is so - it is because, as you say: "Telnic found out domain investors are very difficult and demanding customers". Following this logic we come to a conclusion that "customer is always wrong"?

Natal wrote:That, my friends, is the reason why Telnic doesn't support you at the moment.
As you say to us "you", that means that you are not TEL-domain investor, nor customer. So, it could be one from two possibilities: or you are from Telnic/Telnames personal or you are so called "paid poster". Did I guessed right?

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Re: Telnames is very self-confident

Post by maxi on Thu 29 Nov 2012, 5:19 am

Natal wrote:Only during the last months more .tel owners are using their .tel actively at Telnames than all the .tels from Telnic together, because the customers at Telnames are really using their domains.
Do you have any statistical numbers to illustrate that statement?

I personally saw a lot of new Telnames TEL-domains without any content.


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By the way, I quoted this your post at Biggest Russian domain-forum and at Russian TEL-domains forum. Please, look there, is the translation done correctly?
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Post by Sunrise on Thu 29 Nov 2012, 8:24 am

maxi wrote:I personally saw a lot of new Telnames TEL-domains without any content.
That is strange!
If people only want to secure a .tel without publishing it, they could do it with a .tel at Telnic much cheaper.
If they decide using it, they could always transfer it to Telnames later.
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Post by Expert on Thu 29 Nov 2012, 8:33 am

Sunrise wrote:
maxi wrote:I personally saw a lot of new Telnames TEL-domains without any content.
That is strange!
If people only want to secure a .tel without publishing it, they could do it with a .tel at Telnic much cheaper.
If they decide using it, they could always transfer it to Telnames later.
That's not strange: most customers who saw the advertising from Telnames probably don't know about Telnic.
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Re: Telnames is very self-confident

Post by mikeseaton on Thu 29 Nov 2012, 10:32 am

Expert wrote:
Sunrise wrote:
maxi wrote:I personally saw a lot of new Telnames TEL-domains without any content.
That is strange!
If people only want to secure a .tel without publishing it, they could do it with a .tel at Telnic much cheaper.
If they decide using it, they could always transfer it to Telnames later.
That's not strange: most customers who saw the advertising from Telnames probably don't know about Telnic.
Precisely - look at Telnames.com and AFAIK there's no reference at all to Telnic - so people will think ".tel names" are only available from Telnames !

This has an implication for those who want to sell a .tel - if you don't put it into a Telnames template you probably won't get a very good price - unless maybe selling it to a forum member who understands the situation and wants say, a Geo .tel domain, for long-tail SEO-generated revenue.

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Re: Telnames is very self-confident

Post by maxi on Thu 29 Nov 2012, 11:11 am

In red I marked TELs without any content. I took group of TELs registered yesterday (these TELs were in the first group here http://www.teldomains.co/?go=telnames, so it could be yesterday TELs, perhaps.)
Accountants Edgware
Airport Express
Airport Transfers in Hampshire
Allway Car
Arrowhead Products
Beds and Bedroom Furniture
Billericay Taxis
Cascade Water Gardens
Clifton Auto Repairs
Couriers Liverpool

Cupcake Boutique
Felixstowe Transport
Flat Roof
Funeral Directors Essex
Funeral Directors Waltham Abbey
Id8
Kennys Taxis
Locksmiths Tunbridge Wells
National Saif
Oxfordshire Osteopath
Physiotherapy Wales
Pmg Carpentry and Joinery
Removals in Portsmouth
Robert Andersen
Sports Therapist in Brentwood
Stanmore Accountants
Swimming Lessons in Birmingham
Swimming Lesssons in Hereford
Taxis Loughborough
Taylor Made Treatments
Telenumbers
The Big Apple
There Today
Your Bagpiper
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Re: Telnames is very self-confident

Post by Telnamer on Thu 29 Nov 2012, 12:18 pm

@maxi

That's a fantastic amount of developed telnames!
It means more telnames get developed already on the very first day after registration.
The number of telnames without content is much smaller.
What a great performance of Telnames!
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Post by mikeseaton on Sat 01 Dec 2012, 9:56 am

Telnamer wrote:That's a fantastic amount of developed telnames!
It means more telnames get developed already on the very first day after registration.
It's not surprising that Telnames domains get immediately populated for these reasons:

1) The registration process takes you through a "populate your domain" wizard.

2) With only one 1 page to populate it's relatively quick to do.

3) You don't have to stop and think about designing a navigation structure as you do with a multi-page Telnic .tel domain.

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Post by maxi on Tue 04 Dec 2012, 3:44 am

Does anybody saw those Ads, which were promised by Telnames to run from this Monday at SkyOne TV?

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By the way, some statistics connected with "TEL":

1. .tel http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=.tel&cmpt=q

2. tel http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=tel&cmpt=q

3. telnic http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=telnic&cmpt=q

4. telnames http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=telnames&cmpt=q
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Post by Boracay on Tue 04 Dec 2012, 6:28 am

Natal wrote:
.tel is reaching small businesses with Telnames now and these are the customers that are useful for showing the benefit of .tel.
Do you understand now why Telnic is only busy with Telnames and has currently no motivation to spend a lot of energy for Telnic's customers?

I wanted to revisit your post.
i think you are overlooking the push and attention telnic originally gave to directories.
also take a look at their may'2011 newsletter.
.tel as in "telephone directories" is obvious stuff.
i think we will see telnic revisit subdomain based .tels once telnames shines the light on .tel overall.

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Post by maxi on Mon 10 Dec 2012, 2:37 pm

Natal wrote:http://www.teltalk.org/t714p8-telnames-is-very-self-confident#4105

When .tel came out a few years ago, Telnic tried everything to sell .tels to domain investors.

Very soon Telnic found out domain investors are very difficult and demanding customers. In the beginning Telnic tried to please them as example by integrating Google ads, but domain investors have continued to complain; and it was even more difficult to convince more of them to buy .tels.

That, my friends, is the reason why Telnic doesn't support you at the moment.

Telnic started a complete new concept with Telnames which was not supposed for domain investors (no ads, no sub domains)...
By the way, it seems that user Natal in his post does not see difference between words "domains investors" and "domain developers".

I think that for domain investors there are no difference, are there subdomains or no, is there design or no, and is there convenient Telhosting panel or no.

Instead, the very big difference about those things exists for domain developers.


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Post by Sunrise on Mon 10 Dec 2012, 4:23 pm

maxi wrote:
Instead, the very big difference about those things exists for domain developers.
The biggest mistake ever done by Telnic: not supporting domain developers and even scaring them away!
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Post by mikeseaton on Mon 10 Dec 2012, 5:59 pm

Sunrise wrote:The biggest mistake ever done by Telnic: not supporting domain developers and even scaring them away!
I don't scare easily !

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Post by maxi on Tue 11 Dec 2012, 1:11 pm

maxi wrote:Does anybody saw those Ads, which were promised by Telnames to run from this Monday at SkyOne TV?
Really nobody saw them?



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Post by Teler on Tue 11 Dec 2012, 1:44 pm

maxi wrote:Really nobody saw them?
Here in Norway I rarely watch television from the UK

Telnic must have forgotten the rest of the world

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