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Re: Telnames price hike from £14.95 to £24.95

Post by Orangeblossom on Sat 05 Jan 2013, 8:49 am

Will the price increase stop there?

Maybe the renewal price will be even more? does anybody know or can find out.

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Re: Telnames price hike from £14.95 to £24.95

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Re: Telnames price hike from £14.95 to £24.95

Post by Expert on Sat 05 Jan 2013, 9:42 am

@boracay
Telnames will renew domains only automatically and doesn’t allow renewals before the expiration date.
Your signature isn’t up-to-date. Christmas is over.

@sunrise and mike
The best idea I’ve ever read about.
But I disagree about the need of including all registrars.
Telnames could become a huge sussess with this price scale and make all other registrars either angry or jealous or both.

@orangeblossom
Telnames hasn’t made any further statement, but it would be very strange if registration and renewal prices would be different.
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Re: Telnames price hike from £14.95 to £24.95

Post by mikeseaton on Sat 05 Jan 2013, 9:51 am

Expert wrote:@sunrise and mike
The best idea I’ve ever read about.
But I disagree about the need of including all registrars.
Telnames could become a huge sussess with this price scale and make all other registrars either angry or jealous or both.
The problem with doing that to around 100 registrars is that they will simply drop .tel and focus on the 1000+ new gTLD opportunities coming their way in 2013/2014 !

They may even do that anyway, having got fed up with the extra resources (server and manpower to run/update the CTH, deal with transfer problems unique to .tel, etc.) that is required for .tel compared to other extensions.

Keeping registrars on board is essential for any registry - I can't think of ANY major TLD that has succeeded by alienating their registrars, can you ?

Having spoken to some of them recently (I own a large number of domains and so get to do this every so often) they are getting a bit ****** off with the .tel registry (ie. Telnic) also selling direct (via Telnames) to their existing and potential customers.

So making .tel registrars "angry or jealous or both" is not an option to be recommended !

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Re: Telnames price hike from £14.95 to £24.95

Post by Toptel on Sat 05 Jan 2013, 10:00 am

Expert wrote:@boracay
Telnames will renew domains only automatically and doesn’t allow renewals before the expiration date.
That is against ICANN regulations, because registry operators shall offer registrars the option to obtain initial domain name registration and renewals at the current price (i.e. the price in place prior to any noticed increase) for periods of one to ten years at the discretion of the registrar, but no greater than ten years.
Luckily Telnames is not a registry. But they are not a registrar either. Otherwise they wouldn't be allowed to be owned by Telnic.
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Re: Telnames price hike from £14.95 to £24.95

Post by mikeseaton on Sat 05 Jan 2013, 10:09 am

Toptel wrote:
Expert wrote:@boracay
Telnames will renew domains only automatically and doesn’t allow renewals before the expiration date.
That is against ICANN regulations, because registry operators shall offer registrars the option to obtain initial domain name registration and renewals at the current price (i.e. the price in place prior to any noticed increase) for periods of one to ten years at the discretion of the registrar, but no greater than ten years.
Luckily Telnames is not a registry. But they are not a registrar either. Otherwise they wouldn't be allowed to be owned by Telnic.
With all the extensions I've owned, and all the registrars I've used, I've never come across the situation before whereby you couldn't renew when you wanted to i.e. before a price increase !

But as @TopTel explains, this is possible because Telnames Ltd. is neither a registry (although 100% owned by the registry Telnic Ltd.) nor a registrar !

What's the point of having ICANN regulations protecting customers from renewal price hikes (or at least allowing them to renew before the rise) if such loopholes exist ?

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Re: Telnames price hike from £14.95 to £24.95

Post by TelGirl on Sat 05 Jan 2013, 10:13 am

I would recommend dropping all your .tels at Telnames or transferring them to a cheaper registrar, renewing the best premium domains for the next 10 years right now and dropping all second class domains.
This way you are safe from price hikes, don't have to bother about the current situation and can take advantage of future improvements.
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Re: Telnames price hike from £14.95 to £24.95

Post by mikeseaton on Sat 05 Jan 2013, 10:22 am

TelGirl wrote:I would recommend dropping all your .tels at Telnames or transferring them to a cheaper registrar, renewing the best premium domains for the next 10 years right now and dropping all second class domains.
This way you are safe from price hikes, don't have to bother about the current situation and can take advantage of future improvements.
I have already cancelled my plans to transfer up to 500 Telnic .tels to Telnames.

That was when I heard about the £10.00 (nearly 67%) price increase from £14.95 to £24.95 - it's only today that I've found out (thanks @Boracay) that I couldn't renew my existing Telnames .tels before the price rise !

The problem with transferring away your .tels from Telnames is that you lose the desirable http://YourBusiness.tel template - which is the ONLY version of .tel being marketed and will be ONLY recognised face of .tel if/when "Joe Public" finally comes across it.

So what do you do - pay up at Telnames (approx $40 compared to approx $10 for Telnic .tels) - or transfer to a Telnic .tel which will have no future (and very little current) recognition - or quit the .tel project altogether ?

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Post by TelBlogger on Sat 05 Jan 2013, 10:31 am

Search provides recognition. Some of my tels are doing ok despite the [Inappropriate words deleted! - The admin] running Telnic.
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Re: Telnames price hike from £14.95 to £24.95

Post by Sunrise on Sat 05 Jan 2013, 11:00 am

mikeseaton wrote:That was when I heard about the £10.00 (nearly 67%) price increase from £14.95 to £24.95 - it's only today that I've found out (thanks @Boracay) that I couldn't renew my existing Telnames .tels before the price rise !
Today we have found one more reason why Telnic is doing business with the name Telnames now.
My compliment for this smart move!
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Re: Telnames price hike from £14.95 to £24.95

Post by mikeseaton on Sat 05 Jan 2013, 11:18 am

Sunrise wrote:
mikeseaton wrote:That was when I heard about the £10.00 (nearly 67%) price increase from £14.95 to £24.95 - it's only today that I've found out (thanks @Boracay) that I couldn't renew my existing Telnames .tels before the price rise !
Today we have found one more reason why Telnic is doing business with the name Telnames now.
My compliment for this smart move!
S****ing your customers is smart ?

I don't think so - not if you want to survive long term !

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Re: Telnames price hike from £14.95 to £24.95

Post by Sunrise on Sat 05 Jan 2013, 11:25 am

It depends if you have your customers or your own earnings in mind.
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Re: Telnames price hike from £14.95 to £24.95

Post by mikeseaton on Sat 05 Jan 2013, 11:36 am

Sunrise wrote:It depends if you have your customers or your own earnings in mind.
@Sunrise - I always thought one came from the other !

Particulatly important of course if you have an "annual renewal" type of business, where your company's longevity depends on keeping your customers satisfied year after year !

Of course if you start off with $35,000,000 in the bank you can keep going for quite a while - but the party doesn't last for ever !

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Re: Telnames price hike from £14.95 to £24.95

Post by FrankW. on Sat 05 Jan 2013, 1:24 pm

Telnames campaign at commission junction has launched with £14.95 on 18 Dec 2012 and in the same month (!) a price hike to £24.95 for 15 Jan 2013 has been announced! How can this be?
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Post by Expert on Sat 05 Jan 2013, 2:25 pm

FrankW. wrote:Telnames campaign at commission junction has launched with £14.95 on 18 Dec 2012 and in the same month (!) a price hike to £24.95 for 15 Jan 2013 has been announced! How can this be?
Telnames launched also the TV commercial in December and probably was surprised by the low sales numbers.
Certainly that made them reconsider the price calculation.
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Re: Telnames price hike from £14.95 to £24.95

Post by mikeseaton on Sat 05 Jan 2013, 2:38 pm

Expert wrote:
FrankW. wrote:Telnames campaign at commission junction has launched with £14.95 on 18 Dec 2012 and in the same month (!) a price hike to £24.95 for 15 Jan 2013 has been announced! How can this be?
Telnames launched also the TV commercial in December and probably was surprised by the low sales numbers.
Certainly that made them reconsider the price calculation.
If you have low demand for a service, increasing the price reduces the demand even further - it's not rocket science !

If your service needs to attain CRITICAL MASS to be an INTERNET SUCCESS, then the outcome of Telnames near 67% price hike is virtually guaranteed to make sure it WILL NEVER HAPPEN !

If you're happy with that outcome then fine - if not then sitting on the fence any longer is just going to make your backside sore !

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Post by maxi on Sat 05 Jan 2013, 3:25 pm

TelGirl wrote:I would recommend dropping all your .tels at Telnames or transferring them to a cheaper registrar, renewing the best premium domains for the next 10 years right now and dropping all second class domains.

This way you are safe from price hikes, don't have to bother about the current situation and can take advantage of future improvements.
I add my voice to this strategy.

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Post by Boracay on Sat 05 Jan 2013, 9:02 pm

The $us then reference to euro or pound perhaps is a typo, confusing firstly, or then possibly increase is only slightly more? In anycase, perhaps there will be further coupons promoted and made known to those wishing to renew.


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Re: Telnames price hike from £14.95 to £24.95

Post by Scott Ray on Sat 05 Jan 2013, 9:10 pm

Boracay wrote:The $us then reference to euro or pound perhaps is a typo, confusing firstly, or then possibly increase is only slightly more? In anycase, perhaps there will be further coupons promoted and made known to those wishing to renew.
Very good insight! Useless to discuss the price policy of an independent company, because it'll be monitored internally anyway. But a price hike gives Telnames much more options for marketing campaigns with vouchers.
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Post by Orangeblossom on Tue 08 Jan 2013, 10:38 am

maxi wrote:
Natal wrote:
maxi wrote:
TelFan wrote:A gift to early participants?
Or the Trojan Horse for them.
What do you mean?
In mikeseaton's post above it was explained much better then I could did it.



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Post by Expert on Tue 15 Jan 2013, 4:12 am

The new price in the EU: €31.94
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Post by TelFan on Tue 15 Jan 2013, 6:02 am

Expert wrote:The new price in the EU: €31.94
Plus 5 cents if you use the Telnames app!
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Post by Expert on Tue 15 Jan 2013, 6:14 am

Telnames needs to update the affiliate banners.
I would be disappointed if I click a banner for £14.95 and end up paying £24.95.

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