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Avoid .tel Disaster

Post by TELcp on Fri 25 Jan 2013, 4:02 am

At the current rate of dropping registered .tel domains and considering "names" (some are premium names) of those dropped tel domains recently and in the recent past, the .tel registry is definitely heading for a crash by end of June this year when lot of registered tel domains might not be renewed any more.

But we feel such disastrous situation can be avoided if Telnic decides to develop the current Telhosting panel to include the management of latest features (such as Ads, Video etc )Telnic added lately. And make it simpler to operate (We are aware that Telnic is capable of doing something similar to the Management Panel of Telnames) by general public.Telnic is not going to lose anything by doing this.

If Telnic can do this at least before the end of the First Quarter '13, then there is a possibility to retain some of the existing customers.

Other IMPORTANT thing is that they should explain to people that Telnames is not .tel, but is a service based on the .tel platform and it can not have multiple folders.

Today, lot of people are confused with the two systems.
We know this because many new .tel Owners attempt to manage (through TELcp) their .tel domains registered at Telnames.
In our TELcp system we have a method to inform us of every failed attempt by non existent .tel registrars whenever a .tel Owner request OAuth Token from the registrar's control panel. Many tel Owners in this forum have also had this experience. Telnames is not included in our white list. So every attempt (to manage through TELcp) made by Telname users is notified to us by a system generated e-mail. Then we reply back and explain the difference between .tel domain registered at Telnames and other Registrars.

This is a clear indication that many of these new registrants are NOT aware of the two systems.

We do not wish to explain the reason for all this. Readers reserve the right to come to their own conclusions. All we know is that some of the new tel Owners are confused.

So, it is the duty of the service provider to make this clearer to the customer. As a service to all failed tel Owners we just started adding this explanation from today. When they receive the reply from us they will at least understand what they miss.


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Re: Avoid .tel Disaster

Post by Tim Spears on Fri 25 Jan 2013, 8:20 am

You made it clear what most are thinking!
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Re: Avoid .tel Disaster

Post by Sunrise on Fri 25 Jan 2013, 8:38 am

Telnic won't include the management of ads and videos, because they want Telnames to stand out.
With Telnic they earn only $8 per .tel, but with Telnames they earn $36 per .tel.
They rather lose 100,000 Telnic customers and hope to win 22,000 Telnames customers who are more profitable to them.
In that case the registration and renewal fees wouldn't have changed (minus $800,000 at Telnic, but plus $800,000 at Telnames).
In addition Telnic made it clear future development will happen mainly by registrars:
http://www.teltalk.org/t513-do-you-want-to-develop-your-own-tel-templates
BTW your request was already announced two years ago, but has never been realized:
http://www.teltalk.org/t44-the-new-control-panel-is-coming-soon
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Re: Avoid .tel Disaster

Post by ixida on Fri 25 Jan 2013, 10:51 am

Can Telmasters or Telcp apply to become a registrar? Then they have access to Telnic and after that they would need only a few weeks to launch a control panel with direct access and in the Telnames style.
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Re: Avoid .tel Disaster

Post by Mad Max on Fri 25 Jan 2013, 11:41 am

ixida wrote:Can Telmasters or Telcp apply to become a registrar?
why don't you do it yourself?
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Re: Avoid .tel Disaster

Post by ixida on Fri 25 Jan 2013, 11:48 am

Mad Max wrote:
ixida wrote:Can Telmasters or Telcp apply to become a registrar?
why don't you do it yourself?
No time, no money, no skill!
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Re: Avoid .tel Disaster

Post by TELcp on Fri 25 Jan 2013, 1:14 pm

Once bitten, twice shy.


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Re: Avoid .tel Disaster

Post by NewYorkCity on Fri 25 Jan 2013, 1:35 pm

If Telnic customers don’t get what Telnames customers have, the following will happen:


No .tel at Telnic will be developed anymore.


All .tel at Telnic that are not a premium domain will be dropped.


Only 50,000 Telnic registrations will be left (less of what Telnames will have soon).
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Re: Avoid .tel Disaster

Post by ixida on Fri 25 Jan 2013, 1:43 pm

NewYorkCity wrote:Only 50,000 Telnic registrations will be left (less of what Telnames will have soon).
Why then Telnic is not consistent, shuts down Telnic and continues only with Telnames?
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Re: Avoid .tel Disaster

Post by Sunrise on Fri 25 Jan 2013, 1:51 pm

ixida wrote:
NewYorkCity wrote:Only 50,000 Telnic registrations will be left (less of what Telnames will have soon).
Why then Telnic is not consistent, shuts down Telnic and continues only with Telnames?
Because they earn $400,000 of renewal fees yearly with the rest of 50,000 domains.
But perhaps your idea is already in planning:
As soon registrations at Telnic will fall under a certain level, customers will receive an offer to transfer their domains to Telnames or the domain will be canceled.
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Re: Avoid .tel Disaster

Post by ixida on Fri 25 Jan 2013, 2:00 pm

Sunrise wrote:As soon registrations at Telnic will fall under a certain level, customers will receive an offer to transfer their domains to Telnames or the domain will be canceled.
... and there customers have to pay USD 36 instead of USD 10? Wow, Telnic is very smart! They outsmart all customers, registrars and ICANN! I am impressed!
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Re: Avoid .tel Disaster

Post by silvano on Fri 25 Jan 2013, 3:54 pm

ixida wrote:Why then Telnic is not consistent, shuts down Telnic and continues only with Telnames?

Because Telnic is the registrar of :tel domain among ICANN. I think that Telnames coud buy Telnic and became registrar and the only reseller of the domain at the same time. Paying obviously, at least partly the debt of Telnic toward the original investors.
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Re: Avoid .tel Disaster

Post by Expert on Fri 25 Jan 2013, 5:59 pm

Telnames is owned to 100 % by Telnic and their employees share the same office or are even the same like Aled who is responsible for the customer service at both companies.
It's very transparent that Telnames was only founded because Telnic is not allowed to sell domains.
The real plan will be never discovered, because Telnic won't lose a word about it.
At the end there will be one winner, doesn't matter how this story will end: the team at Telnic.
For them it's not important where the money comes from (Telnic or Telnames).
Everybody else who registered a .tel has to adjust to this game.
I doubt many people registered a .tel at Telnic, because they find it useful.
The main reason must have been the hope for monetization later.
With Telnames it's different. Customers here register a .tel, because they actually want to use them from the beginning.
Due to the lack of information from Telnic it's impossible to make any calculation for the future of .tel, but even without inside everybody can see easily for the time being anything good can come only from Telnames.
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Re: Avoid .tel Disaster

Post by Moonlight on Fri 25 Jan 2013, 6:52 pm

Yes, Telnames has many advantages compared to Telnic:
Awesome design
Nice icons
Background pictures
Management of videos and pictures
One login for everything
Great app for buying, creating and changing websites
Automatic coupon upload to Passbook
But all of this is not so difficult to design for Telnic, too.
Why we shouldn't see it at Telnic, too?
Perhaps in a few years!?
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Post by marimax on Mon 04 Feb 2013, 7:07 pm

ixida wrote:
Sunrise wrote:As soon registrations at Telnic will fall under a certain level, customers will receive an offer to transfer their domains to Telnames or the domain will be canceled.
... and there customers have to pay USD 36 instead of USD 10? Wow, Telnic is very smart! They outsmart all customers, registrars and ICANN! I am impressed!

I think they are going to outsmart themselves and end up with nothing.
I hope somebody is going to sue these geniuses
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Re: Avoid .tel Disaster

Post by supercyberheroes on Mon 18 Feb 2013, 6:55 pm

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Re: Avoid .tel Disaster

Post by supercyberheroes on Mon 18 Feb 2013, 6:56 pm

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Re: Avoid .tel Disaster

Post by Expert on Mon 18 Feb 2013, 11:48 pm

supercyberheroes wrote:if we use telmasters and telcp tool we can make nice sites and be a winner, my last one I believe is good, next 2 weeks I will add new things just check this site: [url=movie.tel]movie.tel[/url]

Regards
[url=ideal.tel]movie.tel[/url]
Super, supercyberheroes!
A real premium domain - and premium content, too!
It should be hard not to be successful with this .tel!
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Re: Avoid .tel Disaster

Post by Sunrise on Wed 27 Feb 2013, 1:11 pm

No reaction until today. It seems Telnic is not interested in keeping their loyal customers.

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